Town-Village Aircraft Safety & Noise Abatement Committee
Regular MeetingHempstead, NY · May 21, 2018
Minutes
TOWN-VILLAGE AIRCRAFT SAFETY & NOISE ABATEMENT COMMITTEE
ONE WASHINGTON STREET • HEMPSTEAD 11550 • (516) 489-3296
Town of MINUTES OF MEETING
HEMPSTEAD Meeting Date: May 21, 2018
Villages of
ATLANTIC BEACH In Attendance:
CEDARHURST
Carl Baessler, Village of Atlantic Beach
FLORAL PARK Larry Hoppenhauer, Executive Director / Secretary
Kurt Langjahr, Village of New Hyde Park
GARDEN CITY
Lawrence Quinn, Village of Garden City
LAWRENCE Andrew Weiss, Village of Floral Park
MALVERNE
NEW HYDE PARK
Larry Hoppenhauer called the meeting to order. Larry Quinn led the
STEWART Committee and audience members in the Pledge of Allegiance.
MANOR
Due to a lack of quorum, the minutes of the April 23 meeting were
VALLEY STREAM unable to be voted upon. They will be submitted for approval at the
June 25th meeting.
WOODSBURGH
William Huisman, Executive Director of the Aviation Development
Council, shared the following information with the committee:
• Updated schedule of Runway 13L – 31R rehabilitation
o Rehabilitation design completed March 9, 2018
o Contract to be awarded on July 1, 2018
o Start of Construction will be September 4, 2018
o Runway will be closed for a total of 329 days (non-
consecutive)
o End of construction will be June 1, 2020
• Breakdown of the rehabilitation schedule
o Phase I – Sept. 4th to Nov. 16, 2018, full runway closure
o Phase II – March 1st to June 1, 2019, full runway
closure
o Phase III – June 1st to Sept. 3, 2019, nightly runway
closure
o Phase IV – Sept. 3rd to Nov. 15, 2019, full runway
closure
o Phase V – March 1st to June 1, 2020, full runway closure
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• The House passes FAA Reauthorization Bill with noise amendments.
o It directs the FAA Administrator to conduct a study evaluating
alternative metrics to the current dNL standard such as the
use of actual noise sampling and other methods to address
community airplane noise concerns and provide a report to
Congress. A report will be due 180 days after the Bill is
enacted.
o Request the FAA Administrator to review the North Shore
Helicopter Route to address the noise impact affected
communities to improve altitude enforcement and to assess
alternatives including an all water route over the Atlantic
Ocean.
• London Heathrow Airport announced its latest rankings in it’s Fly
Quiet and Green program. The program ranks the top busiest
airlines at Heathrow on seven noise and emission metrics each
quarter. For the first quarter of 2018 there was a tie for first place
between Scandinavian Airlines and LOT Polish Airlines. The news
here is that LOT Polish Airlines went from last place in 2013 to first
place.
Larry Hoppenhauer started conversations on the following topics.
1. TVASNAC Presentation – He proposed putting together a presentation
about TVASNAC. Then when the committee starts to have meetings at
various Village locations, this presentation could be made. Many ideas
were presented including the following. Kurt suggested we include a
section of the rich history of TVASNAC over it 50+ years. Examples
given were, SSTL, responsible for legislation to pass in Albany calling for
a 150 Study, a unified noise complaint system with one phone number,
and a simple online form.
It was also suggested by Andrew that we take the opportunity to explain
what the committee “is not”. That at times people address us like we
can make whatever they ask about, happen. Larry Quinn suggested
additional accomplishments of TVASNAC. Carl supported the idea as a
good way to simply explain what we are about. Larry Hoppenhauer also
suggested that this presentation could possibly be used to share with
village governments of those who currently don’t belong to TVASNAC.
2. Noise Complaint Report – He reminded everyone that the new Noise
Complaint Report had recently been emailed. The numbers of
complaints seem to be going down. This time of year, when people start
opening their windows, spending time outside, is a time when noise
complaints typically go up. Please remind your constituents to file noise
complaints. To please take the time because if the Port Authority
doesn’t see complaints, then everything is fine. Larry Quinn also
suggested we ask that if phoning the complaint, use more then one
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phone number to call from. The statistics are also collected by phone
number of origin. Thereby possibly diluting their impact.
3. LGA Perimeter Rule – Larry shared that he received an email from Len
Schaier, Quiet Skies. He was asking for TVASNAC committee members
to contact their State and Federal legislatures to support efforts to block
the lifting of the LGA Perimeter Rule. This rule states that no flights can
go further then 1,500 when originating from LGA during the week. For
the last three years there has been discussion by the FAA to possibly lift
this rule. A discussion followed where an argument was made that lifting
the rule, could switch some of the operations from JFK to LGA. This
would favorably impact those affected by operations at JFK. It was also
presented that lifting the rule would increase operations at LGA. Further
study needs to be done.
4. LAX Metroplex law suit – On May 15th, the FAA filed its response brief in
the US Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. Residents from around Los
Angeles and San Diego filed a Petition for Review of the FAA’s Southern
California Metroplex Project. In part, the brief states that in “the Federal
Aviation Act of 1958, the FAA was delegated control over the use of the
nation’s navigable airspace and regulation of domestic civil and military
aircraft operations to ensure that such operations are safe and efficient.”
In developing the Project, the safety and operational efficiency of this
area was their goal. “The Project was never intended to reduce aircraft
noise and design the Project with noise reduction as a priority”. This
would have contradicted the FAA’s “statutory mandate.” Verbal briefs
are yet to be scheduled.
Public input was asked for at the meeting. None was given.
A motion to adjourn was made by Kurt and seconded by Andrew. Meeting
was adjourned.
The next regularly scheduled TVASNAC meeting will be held on Monday,
June 25, 2018 at 7:00 pm at the Nathan L. Bennett Pavilion, Town Hall, One
Washington Street, Hempstead, New York.
Prepared By: Larry Hoppenhauer
Secretary, TVASNAC
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