Town-Village Aircraft Safety & Noise Abatement Committee
Regular MeetingHempstead, NY · August 27, 2018
Minutes
TOWN-VILLAGE AIRCRAFT SAFETY & NOISE ABATEMENT COMMITTEE
ONE WASHINGTON STREET • HEMPSTEAD 11550 • (516) 489-3296
Town of MINUTES OF MEETING
HEMPSTEAD Meeting Date: Aug. 27, 2018
Villages of
In Attendance:
ATLANTIC BEACH
Carl Baessler, Village of Atlantic Beach
CEDARHURST Larry Hoppenhauer, Executive Director / Secretary
FLORAL PARK
Kurt Langjahr, Village of New Hyde Park
Akiva Lubin, Village of Lawrence
GARDEN CITY Lawrence Quinn, Village of Garden City
Andrew Weiss, Village of Floral Park
LAWRENCE
MALVERNE
Larry Hoppenhauer called the meeting to order. All present participated in the Pledge
NEW HYDE PARK of Allegiance.
STEWART MANOR
VALLEY STREAM The minutes of July 23, 2018 were presented for approval. Motion made by Andrew
Weiss, seconded by Carl Baessler. Motion passed unanimously.
WOODSBURGH
Bill Huisman, Executive Director of Aviation Development Council gave a report.
• Nothing new on runway project of 13L-13R. Sept. 4th, will be a full closure for
about 90 days. This is an asphalt replacement.
• At the JFK AC organizational meeting for JFK Redevelopment CBA had a
representative who works for Bill. She was Dolores Hoffman who talked about
the role of Air Services Development Offices (ASDO). Responsible for
business development so local businesses can acquire as much business as
possible from both JFK and LGA. Businesses within the villages of TVASNAC
would be eligible for her services. To register a company, go to
www.asdoonline.com. Dolores has been in touch with all the TVASNAC
villages Chambers of Commerce. This is a business opportunity. Employment
would be handled by The Council for Airport Opportunity.
• NYS Senator Tony Avella and NYS Assemblyman Edward Braunstein
announced on Aug. 22nd, they are committed to obtaining state funding to
expand a study released last week showing that some residents of Queens
could lose up to one year of their lifespan due to negative noise effects of the
TNNIS RNAV departure procedure out of LGA.
• Health impact study of aircraft noise done by Columbia University, Mailman
School of Public Health. Believed to be first study to assess the health
impacts of tightly concentrated NextGen flight tracks. The current study relied
on secondary data source from a 2013 study. That study found increased risk
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of stroke, coronary disease, among 3.6 million people exposed to noise around
Heathrow Airport. Also used a study done in 2005 on exposure to aircraft noise and
risks of psychiatric disorders.
• July 30, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (CA) introduced legislation that the FAA re-order
priorities the FAA follows when designing flight procedures, to make noise the
second priority, behind safety as the first priority (HR6658)
Larry mentioned that he would change order of the agenda since Akiva Lubin would have
to leave early.
TVASNAC Projects: What would the members like to be addressing as TVASNAC
▪ Lubin - Hold FAA and PA accountable. We should be talking to people who are in
control and hearing what their response is to our concerns.
▪ Quinn -- Since beginning of 150 Study, FAA & PA halted all conversations with us.
Conversations & complaints seem to be discussed at the Roundtable so cutting
TVASNAC out.
▪ Lubin -- Focus seems to be on Queens.
▪ Langjahr - The low response of people complaining, therefore there is no response
from PA.
▪ Baessler - People aren’t coming to our meetings.
▪ Hoppenhauer - Would like more to be going on with TVASNAC. Maybe we should
think about asking people to our meetings that are more in keeping with our
concerns. Roundtable has changed dynamic of FAA & PA.
▪ Weiss - We must have something to offer. Can’t just yell at FAA & PA. Say
instead, here’s the problem and my ideas on how to fix it. We must decide what we
want. Is it realistic? Are there potential solutions? Then pitch that agenda to
appropriate stakeholders to get their opinions and start the dialogue. Ex: these are
our thoughts, what do you think? This is what we want to do? But response is, ”we
don’t have to follow/apply that”. Then ask what the rule is, do our research, if they
are right, find out who can change the rules and take it to the next level.
▪ Lubin - Bring issues to our politicians.
▪ Baessler - Culprit is FAA, there so big and we’re like a fly. Need to focus on our
legislators.
▪ Weiss - asked Aidan Hughes how it works in his office (Sen Kaminsky).
▪ Langjahr - Helicopter issues, Eastern Reginal Helicopter association should be
contacted. ERHA have no way of enforcing guidelines. Even Sen. Schumer, who
pushed northern helicopter route, still gave industry a way out, by allowing them to
do there own thing if it’s for “safety” reasons.
PowerPoint Presentation:
▪ Larry Hoppenhauer could not get the laptop to wok, therefore could not show the
slide presentation.
▪ Copies of the notes pages where distributed and a review ensued. Corrections and
additions were added.
▪ Larry H. pointed out we need to correct expectation that they should expect a return
call for filing a complaint with the PA.
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TVASNAC monthly meetings at our villages:
▪ It was decided to take the meeting to the villages.
▪ Starting with Sept. 24th meeting, Kurt Langjahr offered to host in New Hyde Park
▪ The Oct. 22nd meeting is tentatively scheduled for Floral Park. Andrew Weiss will
confirm.
Senator Todd Kaminsky information:
▪ Aiden Hughes, Staff Assistant reported that Senator’s office is scheduling a
meeting/forum with the Port Authority, Community Outreach program. Just waiting
on scheduling. He’ll notify us to publicize this when it will take place.
▪ Senators Schumer and Gillibrand have announced legislation, the Quiet
Communities Act, requiring the EPA to re-establish an office of Noise Abetment and
Control. This would give the EPA responsibility for aircraft noise across the country.
Require EPA to conduct a study of airport noise and examine the FAA’s selection of
noise measurement methodologies, health impact thresholds and abatement
program effectiveness. This was contained in a press release dated Aug. 24th.
FAA Reauthorization Bill of 2018
▪ Larry Hoppenhauer presented a letter to the committee members addressed to
Senators Schumer and Gillibrand. It asks them to support the FAA Reauthorization
Act of 2018 that was passed by the House on April 27, 2018. With particular
attention to keeping the amendments added by the House but being lobbied against
by many airline interest groups. It is to be addressed by the Senate by Oct. 1, 2018.
▪ A motion was made to send the letter and unanimously approved.
Motion to adjourn:
▪ Made by Kurt Langjahr, seconded by Carl Baessler.
▪ Motion passed unanimously.
The next regularly scheduled TVASNAC meeting will be held on Monday, September 24,
2018 at 7:00 PM. Tentatively at New Hyde Park, Village Hall.
Prepared By: Larry Hoppenhauer
Executive Director / Secretary, TVASNAC
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