Town Council Meeting
Regular MeetingHertford, NC · February 9, 2021
Minutes
Town of Hertford
Town Finance Minutes
Tuesday, February 9, 2021
7:30 PM
Town of Hertford Community Center
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Brown at 5:00 pm.
INVOCATION
was given by Councilman Mimlitsch
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT
Mayor Earnell Brown, Mayor Pro Tem Ashley Hodges, Councilman Frank Norman, Councilman
Jackson, and Councilman Jerry Mimlitsch.
STAFF PRESENT
Town Manager Pamela Hurdle, Town Clerk LaShonda Cartwright, Brian Lewis Finance Department
OTHERS PRESENT
Murielle Harmon, Kim Brinn, Linda Wade Hall, Gail Hill, Venetia George
Mayor Brown started by stating that she would like to have some structures and provided examples…
whom will the members be and why are we meeting.
Manager Hurdle stated that Councilman Jackson wanted a Finance Committee so, so this is the first
meeting, strictly about finances and not part of the budget.
Councilman Norman stated this is just finances only. They would like to keep a running tally on what is
going on with the town and to know how to better move forward. That is one of the things this meeting is
supposed to accomplish.
Finance Director Brian Lewis begin to give his presentation and stated that he wanted to see what time of
direction they wanted to go with the Finance Committee. He also stated that he wanted to see what the
Council expectations were for this meeting and what the Council wanted to see. He also stated that he
would like for the Council if possible, to have their questions/requests given to him at least a week in
advance. This would give him time to meet with the department heads and see what they have prior to the
meeting. This will give him time to have the answers to the Council's questions prior to the meeting. So
far, they have set up for the department heads and The Town Manager to meet ahead of time.
Mayor Brown stated that as part of his presentation she would expect or think that he could come in with
this is what we budgeted for each department, this the actual expenditures and this is the balance for this
particular time frame and if there are any issues regarding having to move money.
Mayor Brown stated she would like to know how many members it is supposed to be, the frequency of
the meetings, and expected outcomes.
Councilman Mimlitsch stated that he, personally thought this first meeting was so they can get caught up
with what’s left in the budget, that was the primary agenda to start with because they don’t really
Know where they are at with it and that he loves the idea of him presenting it each month or however they
do it. Especially with the budget season coming up. That would help a lot. He thinks it is going to be a
great thing.
Pro Tem Hodges stated there is a lot to consider in the terms of how they would make up the committee.
That is a lengthy conversation, and he would suggest they would go ahead and let Mr. Lewis walk all the
way through and they can have a conversation afterward or in the Council meeting in March.
Finance Director Brian Lewis-proceeded with the presentation and went over the budget packet that they
had in front of them. He told the Council they could look through the packet and if they had questions let
him know.
Councilman Norman-said that was asking a lot since they just got the packet. He then asked if it is
possible if the person scanning the documents could scan them right side up, that would make it much
easier. Manager Hurdle stated it was the scanner. Councilman Norman also requested a hardcopy in his
box as well.
Finance Director Brian Lewis stated that he doesn’t expect them to have questions on it today because
they just got the packet. He then started to explain on page two of three in the packet,
Fund10…1041001100 Governing body.
Mayor Brown asked Manager Hurdle what mechanism they had to put the breaks on things. Manager
Huedle stated the Department Heads have the Liberty of spending their budget within their budget.
Mayor Brown asked Manager Hurdle who was their department Head for their governing body and
Manager Hurdle stated all five of them. Mayor Brown asked who was managing our budget for
Miscellaneous on those expenditures. Manger Hurdle stated all five of them should be, so they should
ask for detail of their expenditures. Manager Hurdle stated they could give them a report, but it would
take them coming in looking at the invoices, their software is not going to give them exactly how they
spent the money. Mayor Brown requested to receive that report once a month for the governing board
so they can manage their budget. Finance Director Lewis stated it was doable.
Councilman Norman stated if it is possible that when any budget item gets down to 10% that the Council
can get a heads up. So, make the miscellaneous item what it is. Possibly get an email alert so they as a
governing board can know where they are on their expenditures.
Manager Hurdle stated that is the purpose of the requisitions and purchase orders. Finance Director
asked if he sent out an email of a detail monthly it would give them an idea of how much they have left.
Manager hurdle state they are in growing pain with limited staff and reports that are mandated that the
Finance Department must get out and she does not want to add too much to their plate. Manager
Hurdle stated the Finance Department consisted of two and a half people. Councilman Norman stated
that most towns their size do not have two people in their Finance Department, so he does not think
that’s asking a lot.
Councilman Mimlitsch stated that the whole thing was redundant because they all know because they
must vote on it. He does not think they would be blindsided.
Finance Director Brian Lewis continued with the presentation and told them to send him an email with
any questions or breakdowns of the line items. He also stated that they were working on electronic filing
to get things out quicker to them.
Councilman Jackson asked how much the Tahoe sold for and Manager Hurdle state that it was short
seventy-two dollars of the forty-thousand-dollar goal. Councilman Jackson stated because of their audit
right now they do not have a fund balance. Jackson also stated it very important for them to have those
meetings. He now wants to see what the penalty is for making the decisions that they make and wants
to see a breakdown in this process. Jackson stated that in the future he is hoping they have written
down the purpose of the Finance Committee meeting. They would make recommendations to the
Council before they buy or make a major purchase for anything. Jackson also stated that he thinks
citizens should also be on this committee because it is their money. He just wants to see the effect
broke down somewhere.
Finance Director asked how many people they are looking at being on the committee. Councilman
Jackson stated most Municipalities have a Finance Committee. Jackson also stated that he is fine with
the appointment coming from the Mayor, but he thinks that they need to sit down and draw out the
roles, responsibilities, and duties of the Finance Committee. He stated that his recommendation is
whatever the Board decides on.
Mayor Brown stated they have Elizabeth City as a role model and they can use them as an example, a
prototype. Councilman Jackson stated he can have the information by the next meeting in March.
Jackson also stated he will send out the Bylaws and how they actually do it. Mayor Brown then stated
that each of them can then forward their expectations and how they want to do it along with the Town
Manager.
Councilman Norman stated he did not want the committee to turn into a Quorum. He is never going to
be okay with a Quorum in a meeting. He wants to go on the floor saying he does not want a Quorum
being part of it.
Councilman Mimlitsch stated if possible, include Brian in it as well since he is the Finance Director and
that way, he can have some input on it as well.
Mayor Brown stated Brian will also be a part of the process.
Councilman Jackson stated that he will be using Elizabeth City and Spring Lake the town right outside of
Fayetteville as a prototype.
Mayor Brown stated that when Councilman Jackson comes back with his recommendations that is when
they will come to the Finance Director with their process and procedures.
Councilman Jackson stated the meetings can be monthly or bi-weekly as long as before they do a major
purchase it would come through the Finance Committee and the meeting should be no more than an
hour or an hour and a half.
The Finance Director stated he has finished his presentation.
Mayor Brown stated they have accomplished two things; they received the presentation and
Councilman Jackson has the lead on developing the Finance Committee process and procedures.
And they will review this in March. Councilman Norman wanted to know if the Liaison would be on this
committee and Councilman Jackson stated that he would look into that and get with him on that and
look at recommendations.
Councilman Jackson made the motion to adjourn and Mayor Pro Tem Hodges seconded the motion.
Vote 5-0
Council voted to adjourn the meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 5:58 PM
Agenda
Hertford Community Center
TOWN OF HERTFORD
Town Council - Regular Session
Regular Session Agenda
Mayor Earnell Brown Councilman Quentin S Jackson
Mayor Pro Tem Ashley Hodges Councilman Jerry Mimlitsch
Town Manager Pamela Hurdle Councilman Frank E Norman
Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 5:00 PM Hertford Community Center
CALL TO ORDER - Mayor Earnell Brown
INVOCATION
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
1. Introduction to Town of Hertford's Finances
2. Discussion
3. Going Forward
ADJOURNMENT
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