Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · September 15, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
Thursday, September 15, 2016
7:00 PM
COUNCIL CHAMBER, FEW MEMORIAL HALL OF RECORDS
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Commissioners Present: Baldwin, Carnazzo, McCarthy, McEwen, Menendez-Herbst,
Panetta, Spangler
Commissioners Absent: None
Staff Members Present: Community Services Director Bui-Burton, Recreation and
Community Services Manager Vierra, Sports Center Manager
Vierra, Park Operations Manager Marcuzzo, NIP Coordinator
Krebs, Facility Coordinator Zalan, Recording Secretary Nash
CALL TO ORDER
PRESENTATIONS
1. Recognition of Monterey Community Band Director Richard Robins for 30 Years of
Service (Not a project under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and under General Rule
Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Presentation received.
Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra recognized Richard (Dick) Robins for all of
the time he has contributed over the past 30 years to the Monterey Community Band. She said
not only was he the director/conductor, he also ordered, arranged and wrote music; planned
concerts; took care of the music library; recruited new musicians; and promoted the band. She
said Dick provided an outstanding band program for the City of Monterey.
Commissioner McEwen presented a plaque to Dick thanking him for his outstanding service to
the City.
Dick Robins gave Manager Vierra a bouquet of flowers and thanked her for 30 years of support.
He said our concerts are usually full houses and receive standing ovations. He said the City is
getting an exceptional new band director, Kristen Thompson. He encouraged everyone to come
to the concerts.
2. Lower Presidio Historic Park Improvements Presented by the Old Monterey
Foundation (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General
Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Presentation received.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton introduced Bill McCrone with the Old Monterey
Foundation (OMF) who gave a presentation on the proposed improvements to the Lower
Presidio Historic Park.
Commissioner Panetta noted that Viscaino Park is also used as a bird watching area and said
the whole story was fascinating. Mr. McCrone stated there is a Phase II and III for
improvements; Phase I will make it look and feel like a park.
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Commissioner McEwen thanked Bill McCrone and said this is so exciting; the Commission
visited this site on our park tour in August. Mr. McCrone noted there are tours available on
Saturday mornings.
CONSENT ITEMS
Approval of Minutes
3. Thursday, July 21, 2016
Action: Approved as submitted (6-1, McCarthy abstained – was not in attendance).
4. Thursday, August 18, 2016
Action: Approved as submitted (7-0).
5. Thursday, August 25, 2016
Action: Approved as submitted (7-0).
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
John Pesach, Monterey resident, said that Archer Park is used by thousands of people and
families; having a dog park there would drive people away and it is not a good idea to put a dog
park next to a picnic area. A dog park in New Monterey is a good idea; but not in Archer Park.
Hal Cochran, Monterey resident, said it’s a great idea to have a dog park in the New Monterey
area but that Archer Park is not the place, it’s too small; he suggested somewhere by the
Recreation Trail.
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
6. Receive Report and Update on the Parks and Recreation Master Plan (Not a Project
Under CEQA per Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section
15061)
Action: Report received.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton said the Parks and Recreation Master Plan (PRMP)
process began in August 2015 and was recommended to the City Council for adoption by the
Commission on July 21, 2016; the City Council unanimously adopted the PRMP on September
6, 2016 and rescinded the 1986 master plan and amendments. She congratulated the
Commission and staff for all the hard work and time that went into this plan. She noted the
Council had definite interest in having more dog areas and to possibly allow dogs in City parks
on a leash; to look for a facility for seniors; to look for a new location for a teen center; to list
Dennis the Menace Park as a higher priority; to review the Monterey Youth Center uses; the
Casanova Oak Knoll neighborhood area still needs more park space; identify a park where
drones could be used; improvements to the Recreation Trail and to provide separation between
pedestrians and bicyclists where possible; allow businesses facing the Recreation Trail to have
direct access to the Trail; and pickle ball requests. She said the Council was very appreciative
of all the hard work that went into the new PRMP.
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Commissioner Baldwin inquired when the final PRMP publication would be available. Director
Bui-Burton we plan to have it published by early October.
Sharon Dwight, Monterey resident, said she thought the proposed dog park at Archer Park was
going to be on the agenda tonight and said 150 letters were taken door to door notifying
neighbors. She said most people she spoke to support the idea/concept of a dog park in New
Monterey; there is a need and people would like to have a place for dogs to run off leash. She
said one person she spoke to said some dogs are aggressive and come into their groups at the
park, and people are not picking up after their dogs. She said dogs are not allowed in City
parks; people want a place to let their dogs run loose in parks. She said congratulations on the
PRMP, there was a lot of work done and now there is a vision.
Milena Cochran, 780 Hoffman Avenue; said her concerns about having a dog park in Archer
Park is the size of the park, increase in noise and traffic, and security. She presented a letter
for the record with her concerns. She said that she read through the PRMP looking for other
areas for a dog park; Archer Park is one of the smaller parks in Monterey; she feels there are
larger parks that could be refigured for that purpose.
7. Approve Design for Veteran’s Memorial Park Bocce Ball Court and Veteran’s
Memorial Park Repairs (Not a project under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and under
General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: The Parks and Recreation Commission approved the design of the Veteran’s
Memorial Park bocce ball court, improvements to the basketball court, and replacement
of bollards and telephone poles (7-0).
NIP Coordinator Krebs reviewed the proposed project to install a bocce ball court above the half
basketball court; make improvements to the half basketball court and to replace rotting bollards
and telephone poles. He noted that both courts need ADA access from the parking area and
they are also close to the restrooms.
Commissioner Spangler inquired if any seating is proposed. NIP Coordinator Krebs said they
will put in a bench or two depending on the cost of the project.
Commissioner Menendez-Herbst inquired if there will be bocce ball equipment for park users
and campers to use. Park Operations Manager Marcuzzo stated most people will bring their
own; we could possibly do a lock box if people want to leave their equipment there.
On a motion by Commissioner Panetta, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, and carried by the
following vote, the Parks and Recreation Commission approved the design of the Veteran’s
Memorial Park bocce ball court, improvements to the half basketball court, and replacement of
bollards and telephone poles:
AYES: 7 COMMISSIONERS: Baldwin, Carnazzo, McCarthy, McEwen,
Menendez-Herbst, Panetta , Spangler
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
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8. Review Two Rescoped Park and Recreation Related Proposed Neighborhood
Improvement Program (NIP) Projects for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for Conformity and
Provide Direction to Staff to Advise Council (Not a project under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: The Parks and Recreation Commission reviewed the two rescoped proposed NIP
projects submitted for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for conformity to the Parks and Recreation
Master Plan (PRMP) and provided direction to staff to advise the City Council that the
rescoped Ferrante Park Design Study (VDM-2) conforms to the PRMP and that any extra
funding after the design study is done will be used on park improvements. The Dennis
the Menace Caboose (CW-38) project is recommended to be deferred and the idea be
considered as part of a future comprehensive Dennis the Menace Playground design and
renovation project (7-0).
Community Services Director Bui-Burton noted that after review of proposed NIP projects for FY
2016-2017, the City Council sent these two projects back to the NIP Committee for rescoping.
NIP Coordinator Krebs said staff met with the NIP Committee on June 30 to rescope the
Ferrante Park Design Study (VDM-2) and the Dennis the Menace Caboose project (CW-38).
The Ferrante Park project includes retaining the baseball field; the City Council comments were
that any funds left over after the study could be used for improvements to the park. He noted
the design study was funded for $30,000 to see what the community’s needs and wants for the
park are; he anticipates at least 2-3 meetings for outreach purposes.
Director Bui-Burton stated the new PRMP states the main use for this park is for baseball and
softball. NIP Coordinator Krebs stated this park currently has three approved projects pending:
fix the outfield fence, redo the BBQ area, and a design study.
Commissioner McCarthy inquired is the project still do to the outreach study with neighbors, but
the rescoping is that the baseball field remains. NIP Coordinator Krebs said yes and that
Council suggested to use all of the funding in improving the park, but that the proponent and
NIP Committee still wanted to do a design study.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, the neighbors want to feel like they can use the
park more and the rescoping now states what is wanted.
Commissioner Spangler inquired what percentage of that $30,000 will be spent on meetings
and outreach. NIP Coordinator Krebs said we could easily spend 1/3 or 1/2 on outreach. He
said the outfield fence needs to be fixed now and that staff would like to wait until the design
study is done before fixing the BBQ/picnic area. Commissioner Spangler inquired if the use of
building is up for public input. Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra stated the
building is not very big; the upstairs is a score booth, there is some storage and a concession
stand. NIP Coordinator Krebs stated he will include the footprint of the building in the study to
show people everything that is in the park and what other uses can be done and what can fit
there; the size limits the age of users. Manager Vierra stated we use that field for soccer
practices, it’s not big enough for a game; the field is booked about 10 months of the year.
Commissioner McCarthy said comments by the Council were to use the money to fix up the
park instead of doing another study. NIP Coordinator Krebs said staff will do public outreach to
get as much input as we can; this area has a high population base.
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Commissioner McEwen said we are looking for a consensus to move forward with the Ferrante
Park Design Study rescoped project. Commissioner McCarthy said that maintaining the
ballpark must be included. Commissioner Spangler also said we need to include that any extra
funding will be used for improvements to the park. NIP Coordinator Krebs stated he will come
back to the Commission if there is extra funding and to determine what it will be used for.
NIP Coordinator Krebs reviewed the rescoped Dennis the Menace (DTM) Caboose project
which states “Code compliant caboose or simulated caboose behind the locomotive and ADA
roofed platform station which may or may not include the tender or some modification of it.”
Community Services Director Bui-Burton stated the new PRMP provides guidance on the entire
El Estero Park complex. Under the guidelines, it says to reestablish the park’s historic charm
and vibrancy; and that the train is a main element of the park and should be considered as part
of the overall redesign. Staff recommends this project be deferred until that time.
Commissioner McEwen said now that we have our new PRMP, we are looking at this project
differently. She agrees this project should be tabled and see how it fits in with the redesign of
the entire park and complex.
NIP Coordinator Krebs said there are currently three NIP projects for the park: a pathway
around the entire park that must be ADA accessible, replacement of the boat structure and
climbing structure, and the Moon Bridge. Director Bui-Burton stated the proposed park study
would include the Monterey Youth Center. She also noted that DTM does not have a
reservable picnic area inside the park and that maybe a location could be found.
Tom Reeves, project proponent, said a significant part of that park is being taken up by the train
and feels this project would cater to the children. He said the main comments heard is that the
project is too expensive and too big; he suggested removing the tender but don’t move train.
The locomotive is a trademark and is how people identify DTM; I want to see the land utilized by
children not by a fenced off train. If we can agree in concept that the train stays, we can design
the rest of the park around the train. The PRMP recognizes that the train is a main element of
the park. He said the project funding could be approved and construction deferred; if the project
isn’t approved, the money will go back to NIP.
Commissioner Baldwin asked the proponent if he is envisioning the locomotive to stay where it
is now. Mr. Reeves stated the engine would stay, the tender would go away and a caboose
structure would be added.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, said the rescoped wording is expressive of the
NIPs view of this project; we discussed the PRMP and suggested a total relook at the park. NIP
is saying here’s some money, put it on a shelf and if this project works in with the study, then
you have money. She said NIP sees the train as very important and we should set this money
aside; there is some flexibility, after a study this project could be rescoped again. She
encouraged the Commission to have the Council accept the money. She said NIP members
truly want kids to be able to get closer to the train; this is a lot of money; we’re going to do a
review of the park before we use it.
Park Operations Manager Marcuzzo noted the train has had a lot of issues over the last 10
years. He feels that if you put in a caboose, the City Attorney may say it is not a piece of play
equipment and cannot go in the park. Staff also sees a lot of problems with having an enclosed
building in the park.
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Commissioner McCarthy thanked Tom Reeves for being thoughtful and for pushing something
that would be viable for this park. He said NIP Spokesperson Dwight is saying to take the
money; but if we take the money we have to use it for the caboose. He inquired if we have the
flexibility to take the money and use it for other projects within the park.
Commissioner McEwen said this is confusing; we would love to have this $370,000 to develop a
master plan for DTM and use what funding is left over on the caboose; this recommendation
tonight is to approve the proposed caboose project only.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, said the NIP process allows staff to come back to
NIP to revise the scope of a project; a master plan for the park could be another submitted NIP
project. The NIP Committee knew when we voted this rescoped wording that this proposed
project might be put on the side until a master plan is done for DTM.
Commissioner Baldwin stated he would like to get a legal opinion on whether the caboose can
be play equipment or not; that will give us a basis on making a decision.
Commissioner Spangler inquired if we approve this project, can some of the funding be used for
a master plan; if we decide we don’t want a caboose, would the remaining funding go back to
NIP.
Commissioner McCarthy said he can’t commit to this project as written. We would love to take
the money if some of the funding can be used for a study or other projects; this way we’re not
turning the money down.
Commissioner Baldwin noted that after we get a master plan, we may realize that we don’t want
the train at all.
Commissioner McEwen said we appreciate the direction that the NIP has rescoped the project;
but feel that more deliberation is needed; because we don’t have specifics, we need more
answers.
Tom Reeves said he spoke to the City Attorney, she said if it’s in the playground, then it’s
considered playground equipment. Commissioner McEwen stated that an enclosed
unsupervised space is a hazard. Mr. Reeves said that video equipment is included in the
proposal.
NIP Coordinator Krebs stated that once a proposed project becomes an NIP project, Council
cannot change it. Commissioner McCarthy said the project is the caboose, I don’t want to
approve $370,000 for a caboose; what we are asking is can the money be used for other
projects or a study.
Commissioner Baldwin said he agrees with the staff recommendation to defer the proposed
caboose project and the idea be considered as part of a future comprehensive DTM design and
renovation project. The Commission agreed with the staff recommendation to consider the
caboose as part of the future development.
Commissioner McCarthy said our guidance to Council is that we do adopt a thoughtful, holistic
approach, and that the caboose project be deferred and the idea be considered as part of a
future comprehensive Dennis the Menace Playground design and renovation.
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9. Highlights of Monterey Sports Center Programs (Not a Project Under CEQA per
Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Presentation received.
Facility Coordinator Rachael Zalan gave a presentation on the Monterey Sports Center
programs. The Commission thanked Rachael for her presentation.
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
10. Monthly Report - Parks Division - July 2016 (Not a project under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Report received.
11. Monthly Report - Parks Division - August 2016 (Not a Project Under CEQA per Article
20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Report received.
Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra reported the Ribbon Cutting Ceremony for
the new lighted outdoor basketball court near Shoreline Park will be on Saturday, October 8 at
1:00 p.m. and is sponsored by the Golden State Warriors and the Santa Cruz Warriors. The
Sports Center is holding the preliminary free throw contest with the top winners competing for
prizes during the finals at the Ribbon Cutting Ceremony.
Sports Center Manager Vierra noted that registration for the free throw contest will be done
online and the deadline to register is Tuesday, September 20, 2016; three people from each
age group will be picked to go to the finals.
Park Operations Manager Marcuzzo reported the pickle ball court striping at Via Paraiso Park
was done today; they are working on the landscaping at the new outdoor basketball court.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton acknowledged that the relationship with the Presidio is
going great; a new pass system for sports program participants was created and seems to be
working well. She reminded the Commission that a retreat will be held on Saturday, October 1
and Mindy Craig from BluePoint Planning will lead the retreat.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner McCarthy said visit a park!
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, October 20, 2016
ADJOURNMENT
Chair McEwen adjourned the meeting at 9:55 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Kim Bui-Burton Ellen McEwen, Chair
Community Services Director Parks and Recreation Commission
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Agenda
Parks and Recreation Commissioners
Commission Ellen McEwen, Chair
Agenda Lacy Spangler, Vice Chair
Regular Meeting Vance Baldwin
Daniel Carnazzo
Thursday, September 15, 2016 Dennis McCarthy
Council Chamber Suzanne Menendez-Herbst
Few Memorial Hall of Records 7:00 PM Kathleen Panetta
Monterey, California
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
PRESENTATIONS
1. Recognition of Monterey Community Band Director Richard Robins for 30 Years of
Service (Not a project under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and under General Rule
Article 5, Section 15061)
2. Lower Presidio Historic Park Improvements Presented by the Old Monterey
Foundation (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General
Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
CONSENT ITEMS
CONSENT ITEMS allow for a review of those items recommended for approval on consent or
recommended to be continued, tabled or withdrawn, etc. Consent items consist of those items
which are routine and for which a staff recommendation has been prepared. A member of the
public or a Commissioner may request that an item recommended for approval on consent be
heard on the regular agenda for further discussion.
Approval of Minutes
3. Thursday, July 21, 2016
4. Thursday, August 18, 2016
5. Thursday, August 25, 2016
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS allows you, the public, to speak for a maximum of three minutes on any
subject which is within the jurisdiction of the Monterey Parks and Recreation Commission and
which is not on the agenda. Any person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the
Commission may do so during Public Comments or by addressing a letter of explanation to:
Recreation and Community Services Director, 546 Dutra Street, Monterey CA 93940. The
appropriate staff person will contact the sender concerning the details.
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
PUBLIC APPEARANCE items are reports on action or informational issues that might stimulate
public discussion, but that do not require formal noticing as public hearings. You are welcome to
offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may limit the time allocated to
each speaker.
6. Receive Report and Update on the Parks and Recreation Master Plan (Not a Project
Under CEQA per Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section
15061)
7. Approve Design for Veteran’s Memorial Park Bocce Ball Court and Veteran’s
Memorial Park Repairs (Not a project under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and under
General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
8. Review Two Rescoped Park and Recreation Related Proposed Neighborhood
Improvement Program (NIP) Projects for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for Conformity and
Provide Direction to Staff to Advise Council (Not a project under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
9. Highlights of Monterey Sports Center Programs (Not a Project Under CEQA per
Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS supply the Commission with written or oral
information that they may wish to discuss or take action by placing the item on a future agenda.
10. Monthly Report - Parks Division - July 2016 (Not a project under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
11. Monthly Report - Parks Division - August 2016 (Not a Project Under CEQA per Article
20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or make a
brief report on his or her activities. In addition, a Commissioner may provide a referral to staff or
other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to the body at a subsequent
meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to place a request to agendize a matter of
business on a future agenda. (G.C. 54954.2)
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, October 20, 2016
ADJOURNMENT
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Sep 21 Architectural Review Committee Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Sep 26 Colton Hall Museum Cultural Art Commission Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
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Oct 13 Historic Preservation Commission Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
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