Water Supply and Resources Committee
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · October 2, 2017
Minutes
(CORRECTED MINUTES: Pages 18 and 19 should have read that the Mount Pleasant
Waterworks Impact Fee amount is $4,990 not $49.90)
TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH CAROLINA
WATER SUPPLY COMMITTEE
Monday, October 2, 2017
Municipal Complex, Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
Revised Minutes
Members Present: Mark Smith, Chair, Joe Bustos and Gary Santos
Staff: Eric DeMoura, Town Administrator
Also Present: Dionna Ebeling, Community Engagement &
Communications Director; Terry Hughes, Meter
Solutions Supervisor; Susan Mellichamp, Vice Chair,
MPW Commission
1. Approval of Minutes from the July 31, 2017 meeting
Mr. Santos moved for approval; seconded by Mr. Bustos. All present voted
in favor.
2. Public Comments
[None]
3. Mount Pleasant Waterworks
a. Update on the Advanced Metering Infrastructure Project
Dionna Ebeling, MPW’s Community Engagement & Communications
Director, stated that they came before Council previously regarding
the AMI (Advanced Metering Infrastructure) project. She said that
MPW currently has an AMR system, which requires that metering
vehicles ride through the Town and collect readings. She stated on the
AMR, there have been misreads and repeat visits.
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She stated that with new infrastructure, MPW recently launched the
AMI project, which officially kicked off in July.
She stated that she would also like to introduce Mr. Terry Hughes,
who is new to MPW and is the Meter Solutions Supervisor and has
vast experience with AMI and with Senses and is a great asset to the
team.
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She stated that the next illustration is how the new meters look and
the biggest change is now you will see a small antenna out of the top
of the cover, which is what MPW relies on to feed information back.
She stated that the following illustration are some of the benefits to
their customers.
She stated that the new system will allow them to track how much
water they consume hourly. She stated that currently it takes up to 45
days for readings and billing, but this system will allow them to reduce
that timeframe.
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She added that there are also benefits to MPW and the relationship
with their customers.
She stated that one of the things that MPW discussed previously is
what concerns they expect to hear.
She stated that this project kicked off in July. She stated there are
approximately 4,000 meters that they are requiring to be manually
read. She said a portion of the metering device was not delivering the
reading back to the truck as they drove by, so they were physically
having to send personnel out and get those readings. She said they
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wanted to get those meters out of the system first, so they began
installing all the new meters there first and this week, they will
complete those 4,000 installs.
She stated with the installation of the 4,000 new meters, there have
been four landscaping issues. She stated that additionally, there have
been four accounts that had issues with their consumption, which
were large amounts of usage, and because of the details that the new
meters are able to provide, they were able to help those customers
discover where those problem areas were. She stated that of the
4,000 new meters, there have been three customer complaints, all
solved within 30 minutes by Mr. Hughes.
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Ms. Ebeling stated that some of the photographs are examples of
landscaping issues MPW has been faced with; however, in order to
resolve some of the landscaping issues, they have partnered with
Pleasant Places Landscaping.
She stated that MPW understands that landscaping is important to
residents and wanted to be professional when handling these issues.
She stated that when meter issues are discovered, MPW has Pleasant
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Places Landscaping work with their customers to figure out solutions
that will benefit both the customers and MPW.
Mr. Santos asked if there is a size difference from the old meter to the
new one.
Mr. Hughes stated that the meter boxes will remain the same size. He
said that MPW will not change the size of the footprint.
Mr. Santos asked if there were issues with the antennas being
damaged by lawnmowers.
Mr. Hughes stated that they have experienced one issue only.
Ms. Ebeling stated that the benefit of the new meters is that each
morning Mr. Hughes receives a report; therefore, if there is a
disconnect in the communication from an antenna, Mr. Hughes will
see it first thing in the morning and address it quickly. She stated that
MPW’s goal, when faced with issues such as landscaping, is to attempt
to work with the customer directly; however, there are times when
this may not be possible. She stated that in those cases, there are
Town ordinances in place that will assist when dealing with these
situations.
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She stated that the most important portion of the new meters being a
successful project is communications. She stated that MPW has
expanded their communications efforts to their customers.
She stated that information is updated constantly on the MPW
website, direct mailings are being sent, as well as postcards. She
added that MPW has a “notify me” module similar to the Town’s to
sign customers up in phases to push information out to them relative
to the metering project via text, email and telephone calls. She also
mentioned that social media has also been very successful, and
educational videos will also be posted on their website.
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Ms. Ebeling stated that US Bronco Services is the contractor who is
helping with the new meter project. She stated that US Bronco
Services has moved a project manager to Mount Pleasant to oversee
the project. She stated that the contractor is held to strict guidelines,
which MPW has been very pleased with. She stated that the following
map indicates where MPW will be going next. She added that MPW is
completing the 4,000 meters this week, and moving into the cycle 4
portion of their billing cycle, which includes Dunes West and the
northern portion of the Town. She stated that they will begin this
phase on Wednesday.
Ms. Ebeling stated that this will be a lengthy project and will look to
the Town for guidance on how often they would like to see updates.
Mr. Santos asked if MPW could provide periodic updates in order to
keep apprised in the event residents have questions.
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Mr. Smith asked Mr. Hughes if there are ways that the elected officials
or staff are able to assist.
Mr. Hughes stated that he is also the Chairman for the United States
and Canada for AMI and this is his second project. He said the biggest
effort is good public communications, which he believes Ms. Ebeling
has done tremendously. He stated that the contractors, US Bronco
Services, are required to put up a door hanger, prior to his arrival,
advising the resident that he will be at the residence. He said that they
are also required to again hang a door hanger advising the
homeowner that they have replaced the meter or were unable to do
so, and list why. He said the biggest issues relate to landscaping and
he has personally attempted to visit those that have called and meet
with them. He said residents have been very receptive.
Kevin Cunnane, 3032 River Vista Way, stated that people have asked
about the increase in their water bill. He stated that he recalls during a
previous employment that old meters slow down, and when the new
meter is replaced, it is more accurate. He asked if this is why people
get a higher bill.
Ms. Ebeling stated that some of the residents who have asked about
higher bills are not on the new metering system. She stated that with
the new metering system, Mr. Cunnane is correct, as with older
meters, as they age, they under read, and when the new meters are
installed, there is a possibility that the residents may see that accuracy
improve. She stated that currently it is approximately a 1% difference
nationally. She stated that they do educate their customers about this
when installing their new meter. She stated that relative to recent
concerns of higher than normal water bills, there have been
discussions on social media, which MPW follows closely. She stated
that one thing MPW does well is document all communications. She
said that they also research the customers who reach out to new
media or post on social media to see what has happened with their
accounts. She said that unfortunately, social media has become the
platform for people to say what they want and not necessarily put the
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full details. She said that they do have customers that call regarding
higher-than-normal bills, which are primarily due to irrigating their
lawns. She stated that many of the new neighborhoods have sod
installed by a professional and they turn on the irrigation system to
run to ensure the grass matures. She said that residents typically do
not realize how often the irrigation system turns on and off. She said
that they do attempt to educate those customers and said there are
also issues with leaks. She said that MPW has so many different ways
to assist customers in determining if there is an issue and if so, MPW
does allow for adjustments in bills.
b. Priority one septic tank abatement, impact fee assistance
Ms. Ebeling stated that Mr. Duffie is at a water conference, so she will
do her best to fill in. She stated that Mr. Duffie was here a few months
ago regarding the number of septic tanks there are in the Town of
Mount Pleasant and different ways eliminate those septic tanks. She
stated that in the service area and the MPW service area, 1,092 septic
tanks still exist, and of those, approximately 273 are in the Town of
Mount Pleasant.
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She stated that MPW did a study and research on the septic tanks and
the Commissioners put them in priorities, with some being in the
County and some in the Town. She stated that the Commissioners
recently decided that they wanted to focus on attempting to fund and
eliminate septic tanks for Mount Pleasant residents. She stated that
this totals approximately 185 septic tanks, and Mr. Duffie discussed
with this Committee what the financial impact would be to MPW and
their customers. She stated that there was discussion regarding joint
funding with the Town to enable both entities to work together to
ease the financial burden for the residents affected. She stated that
the chart below breaks out what it will take from MPW, what they are
requesting from residents and where they are able to obtain
assistance. She stated that the impact to eliminate the 185 septic
tanks totals approximately $10 million dollars.
She stated that priority #1 area, in blue, is the area that the
Commissioners would like to focus on, are those residents in the Town
located from Carolina Park down, where those septic tanks currently
are located.
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She stated that what MPW is officially here to ask is to work along
with the Town of Mount Pleasant to seek offsetting 50% of the
wastewater impact fee for those citizens currently on septic tanks. She
stated that they propose to use $50,000 annually from the 1% revenue
that MPW pays the Town of Mount Pleasant for over ten years. She
said for each year $50,000 would come off of the 1% and set aside to
assist directly with impact fees for wastewater connections for those
customers in the Town, in order to get them off of septic tanks.
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Ms. Ebeling stated that from 2009 to 2016, MPW has paid the Town of
Mount Pleasant approximately $2.23 million dollars with the 1% and
savings on irrigation. She stated that MPW has contributed $615,000
to the Town in FY2016. She stated that if you look at 2016 and 2017,
the delta between the two is approximately $50,300. She stated that
this is where their proposal is to capture that delta, put it aside to
assist with the impact fees and do this for ten years moving forward.
She stated for the Town, the financial impact would be one year,
because they will continue to see an increase, but MPW will have that
$50,000 in that one year that will impact the Town in the budget.
She stated that the benefits for partnering with MPW are as follows.
Ms. Ebeling stated that there are a number of residents on septic
tanks who struggle with maintaining them and this creates a public
health concern.
Mr. Santos stated that some of the issues that the Town has been
having on Shem Creek, people, pets and pelicans, are what is causing a
great deal of the pollution. He said there was discussion previously
about a water quality alert system where people are able to see if it is
safe to be in the water. He stated that Mr. Duffie agreed to run the
samples if the Town is able to provide the samples. He said that he
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would like to discuss with MPW further to move forward with this
system going, working with Charleston Waterkeeper and with the
three working together, a system should be implemented to notify the
public. He said when these septic systems begin to be replaced, there
are many people who live further away from the connecting lines. He
said that the financial impact is more substantial for those further
away than people with the lines closely located.
Ms. Ebeling stated that Shem Creek is one of the areas that everyone
is concerned with; however, MPW’s vision is for the entire service
area. She said that they did look at the areas that currently have
infrastructure in front of their properties and have prioritized those
that can be taken off septic tanks the quickest. She said there are
approximately 63 residents in the Town of Mount Pleasant who have
mainline infrastructure directly in front of their property and is it the
connection from that line to their home. She added that these are the
priority. She said there are residents of the Town in the Snowden area
that need to be connected desperately. She said that when there are
major rains, the septic tanks flood their yards. She stated that the
infrastructure is there, it is just getting them connected. She stated
that the map is widespread and MPW is focused on getting everyone
off septic systems. She said that while Shem Creek is a major concern,
MPW is focused on the entire Town.
Mr. Santos stated that he does understand, but mentioned Shem
Creek because of paddle boarders, kayakers and children that swim in
the creek. He said that he just believes it is important to have a water
quality notification for residents and visitors alike. Mr. Santos stated
that although funding will still be coming in, the Town will not really
be losing.
Mr. DeMoura said that the Town will be losing $50,000 a year.
Mr. Smith stated that collaborative effort to get the result to the users
of Shem Creek is a priority of MPW Commissioners. He said that MPW
hears Mr. Santos’ concern and share his concern and action is being
taken.
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Ms. Ebeling stated that MPW has started conversations internally
about how a notification system can work.
Mr. DeMoura stated that staff will have ready for Committee next
month a report that Council initiated at the cost of $100,000 which
studies the watershed area for Shem Creek, which the Town is
partnering with Charleston Waterkeeper on. He stated that one of the
core issues at stake here is an issue that the Town has been dealing
with for a long time. He said that what the Town has is an agency, not
a local agency, but a State agency that approves and permits septic
tanks and that is it. He said that the same agency turns around and
holds localities responsible for the water quality years after when they
give up their responsibility to study whether those septic tanks are still
performing or not.
Mr. Smith stated that Mr. DeMoura makes and excellent point and
much like their roads and bridges as well. He said that the State has a
track record incumbent of not doing what they need to be doing. He
said that going back to the issue at hand, specifically on the request
regarding septic tank abatement and impact fees, as the Chairman of
the Water Supply Committee for the past four years, it is time for
some action. He said that Shem Creek is important; however, he wants
to move beyond Shem Creek and focus on the total service area for
the Town. He said there are currently 271 in town residents on septic
tanks that qualify for connection to MPW’s sewer system and getting
off the septic tank. He said that staff did an excellent job with the
consultants and presented to the Commissioners the priority list. He
said the work is done and the specific request from MPW to the Town
is for the Town to step up and assist residences to connect to the
MPW sewer system. He said that he supports this initiative and
believes it is time with the caveat that the base of the franchise fee
that the Town currently has budgeted and needs, recognizing that the
Town Administrator is 100% correct that it will be an adverse effect to
the Town’s budget to utilize the funding. He stated that if we allow
this to happen on the growth at a $50,000 level, which is well covered
and not touching the base, based on trend analysis of historical
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revenue coming into the Town, the Town is spending resources to
benefit residents of the Town. He suggested MPW decide that the
grant process is fair, beneficial and open to all residents on a first
come, first serve basis. He said once the funds have been depleted,
residents will be able to wait for the next grant period the following
year. He said that MPW has a CIP just as the Town does and there is
not enough funding that MPW has in the bank to pay for all of the line
improvements that need to be done today. He said that they have a
plan to continue to move us all forward, just as the Town has with
stormwater improvements.
Mr. Bustos asked what the priority #3 “annex or mandatory
connection” is.
Mr. Smith stated that priority #3 is where they have not annexed in or
the line needs to be extended in order for connection to take place.
Mr. Bustos stated that previously there was an issue with Snowden,
where water lines were extended and the residents of that community
refused to connect and it became a large expenditure for MPW.
Ms. Ebeling stated in the 58 septic tanks on priority #3, those
customers are contiguous to the Town and have infrastructure in front
of them, but are still in the County. She said the issue for MPW is that
the County does not have a mandatory connection ordinance. She
stated that this is where they are going to look to work with the
County to develop language to require mandatory connection,
because the infrastructure is already in place. She stated that in
MPW’s service area, they are further out on the other priorities that
are not being focused on at this time. Those are the customers that
are in the County and do not currently have infrastructure. She said
that MPW is not focusing on them because of the cost to run the main
line.
Mr. Bustos stated that he is agreeable with priority #1 and priority #2
who are all Town residents, but not priority #3.
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Ms. Ebeling stated that the requirement for Wastewater Service is
that you must either annex into the Town of Mount Pleasant or sign
an agreement that once they are contiguous, they will annex into the
Town. She stated that the $50,000 from the Town will not be utilized
towards any funding for anyone that is not in the Town. She stated
that this joint venture addresses those citizens that both MPW and the
Town serve.
Mr. Bustos asked if this is 127 residents as shown in priority #1 and #2.
Ms. Ebeling responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Santos stated that the septic tanks need to be cleaned up and
leave the environment cleaner than when we found it.
Linda Page, 1458 Short Street, stated that she has some concerns and
questions. She said the biggest concern is that the Town has $500
million dollars in unfunded projects and the Town wants to do what
they can to partner with MPW. She said that keeping in mind that ten
years of $50,000 may not sound like a large amount, but it will hurt.
She stated that there are 63 residents who have access to main lines
and asked what that resident may, on average, have to pay for that
connection to the main line.
Ms. Ebeling stated that currently the wastewater impact fee is $4,990
and they would be required to pay the impact fee and there are also
internal administrative fees that are added to the customer’s new bill,
in addition to a $30.00 new account fee. She said that once a
customer comes onto the wastewater system, they then have a
wastewater bill.
Mayor Page stated that the average wastewater bill is typically how
much.
Ms. Ebeling stated that it is approximately $30 per month.
Mayor Page stated that she needs to know if MPW is able to waive the
$4,990 and not charge any impact fees. She asked if MPW would
consider this. She said that we need to be practical in that some septic
tanks are failing and not everyone wants to be forced to connect to
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the sewer system, which will create an ongoing fee for $30.00 per
month. She stated that the ten year term also causes her concern,
because of the Snowden incident, which was well intended, but did
not work out. She asked if MPW would consider doing a pilot, with
MPW waiving the $4,990 or a reduction of it, at least to the match of
what the Town would be asked to pay. She said until she hears this
from the MPW Commissioners, she will be unable to support this, as
important as the water quality is. She would like to be partners
together for cleaner water.
Mr. Smith stated that some of the Town residents who want to tie in
have financial challenges and cannot afford to write that check up
front. He suggested some financing terms, which was already a
precedent that was set with MPW previously. He stated that some
financing options have been discussed and would be welcomed, if the
Town would be willing to move forward.
Mayor Page stated that it is not all about financing. She stated that if it
is $5,000 that is being financed for a certain period, are there interest
fees attached to this and MPW is still receiving new revenue of $30
per month for the service. She stated for priority #1, the infrastructure
is already there and lines do not need to be expanded. She added that
this is simply getting people that are readily available. She said that
this is eliminating the impact fees for those, and once she hears the
response to this, will discuss further.
Mr. Smith asked about those who are annexed into the Town who do
not have that infrastructure available and are still waiting. He said that
part of their rationale for annexing in was to tie into and receive the
services from the Town, including tying into MPW. He said that this
conversation also needs to happen equally.
Ms. Ebeling stated that Committee members as well as Mayor Page
are aware of MPW’s philosophy that growth pays for growth and what
those impact fees cover. She said that MPW is looking at ways to help
offset the impact fee such as financing. She stated that as far as
elimination of impact fees for one resident versus another, in their
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cost recover policy and often hear the MPW Commissioners say is
being fair and equitable to all MPW customers. She said for that
infrastructure to have already been in the ground, there are those that
have already paid those impact fees, so if we now go back and
eliminate impact fees for others, is MPW being fair and equitable. She
said that this is a great discussion to continue to ensure all are 100%
clear on where the Commissioners are coming from.
Mr. Santos stated that he appreciates the conversations taking place
and partnering up together, attempting to find a solution together.
Arthur Pinckney, 873 Long Point Road, which is in Snowden. He said
that he was born and raised right here in the Town. He said that he
has been waiting for a very long time for sewer service. He stated that
he has water. He said with all the rain that has been taking place, the
septic tank has been coming up in his backyard and he had to have it
pumped twice. He said that when looking at the priority list, he would
like to know where Snowden is on this list. He said that he has been
supporting the Town since he annexed in and has been paying for the
service, and asked where his service is. He said the septic tank is
hindering him from doing things with his property and house. He
appreciates the conversation, but this conversation has been going on
for too long. He kept hearing that it is going to happen, but nothing
has happened. He said that there are a number of Snowden residents
who are annexed into the Town and have been waiting for sewer
service patiently.
Ms. Ebeling stated that the Snowden residents who are currently in
the Town of Mount Pleasant are included as priority #1. She stated
that MPW is looking at funding and grant funding currently and are
here talking to the Town for assistance. She said that MPW will be
coming out to speak to the residents.
Mr. Pinckney stated that he hopes the Town and MPW will work
together to get sewer lines installed.
MPW Commissioner Mellichamp said that the Commissioners are
committed to eliminating septic tanks within the Town of Mount
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Pleasant and what they are asking for today is for the Town to assist
with the $50,000 grant for the citizens of the Town, and so MPW is
able to help those citizens with fees.
Mr. Bustos stated that he is agreeable with assisting the residents of
the Town of Mount Pleasant, but does not wish to commit funding to
those in the County until they do annex. He said that he understands
that it is $50,000 but would like how those 127 residences that are in
priority #1 and #2 are broken out. He would like to see the numbers to
see where the $50,000 is going.
Ms. Ebeling said that MPW will provide that information.
Mr. Santos made a motion to approve the septic tank abatement,
impact fee assistance as mentioned and partner up with Mount
Pleasant Waterworks for the citizens of the Town of Mount Pleasant at
this time only, up to the $50,000 level for in Town residents only;
seconded by Mr. Bustos with the understanding that this Committee
will receive specific numbers. All present voted in favor.
Mr. Smith stated that this is a motion to allow up to a $50,000 per
year off of the increased franchise fee amount for septic tank
abatement impact fee assistance for in Town residents only,
specifically from priority #1 and #2.
All present voted in favor.
4. Adjourn
There being no further business, meeting adjourned at 10:25 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
October 2, 2017
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