City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingOakdale, MN · June 13, 2023
Minutes
WORKSHOP MINUTES
OAKDALE CITY COUNCIL
JUNE 13, 2023
The City Council held a workshop on Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at Oakdale City Hall, 1584
Hadley Avenue North, Oakdale, Minnesota. The meeting began at 5:00 PM.
Present: Mayor Kevin Zabel
Council Members: Noah Her
Jake Ingebrigtson
Andy Morcomb
Susan Willenbring
City Staff Members: Christina Volkers, City Administrator
Sara Ludwig, City Clerk
Jesse Farrell, City Engineer
Luke McClanahan, City Planner
Nick Newton, Police Chief
Lori Pulkrabek, Communications Manager
Jim Romanik, Public Works Manager
Kyle Stasica, Accounting Manager
Kevin Wold, Fire Chief
Jason Zimmerman, Finance Director
Kevin Zittel, Facilities Manager
Others Present: Kristin Baldonado, Urban Planner, Stantec
Jackie Huegel, Independent Auditor, MMKR
REVIEW OF 2022 FINANCIAL AUDIT
Accounting Manager Kyle Stasica explained the reasoning for and process behind the 2022
financial audit.
Jackie Huegel, Independent Auditor with MMKR, reviewed the Management Report including
scope, timeline, and audit opinion. The City received an unmodified or clean opinion which is
the desired audit result. She noted that the City did not obtain the payroll declaration by the
employee or supervisor as required by Minnesota Statutes § 412.271, Subd. 2 for 25 of 25
payroll claims tested. Ms. Huegel recommended updating City Policies FR-007: Investments
and Cash Management, FR-019: Fund Balances, FR-021: Federal Grant Awards
Administration Policy, and PE-014: Expense Reimbursement – Mileage and Training, to align
with current City practices and adhere to State statutes. She moved on to review the
governmental fund revenues, to which Mayor Zabel asked about the increase in Charges for
services line item. Finance Director Jason Zimmerman explained that this increase was due
to increases in the Park Improvements fund, and the water availability reserve and sewer
availability reserve funds.
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As Ms. Huegel reviewed the governmental fund expenditures, Council Member Morcomb
asked about the possibility of drilling down to see the Metro-Wide averages versus just the
State-Wide averages. Ms. Huegel said the information is provided by the State Auditor so she
is unsure if they have that specific information readily available.
Ms. Huegel went on to review the general fund revenues and expenditures, and the enterprise
funds. Mayor Zabel provided some brief context for the ambulance fund’s operating results
for the past five years.
Mayor Zabel asked about the operating loss within the street light fund. Ms. Huegel pointed
out the need to include depreciation on capital assets. Mr. Zimmerman added that there were
transfers between this account and others that also played a factor.
Mayor Zabel complimented staff on the work that has been done over the last two years to
improve the course trajectory of these funds.
Council Member Morcomb asked if the City is well protected from the risk of working with
vendors or suppliers who may become insolvent. Ms. Huegel stated that if the City has any
sweep accounts it should ensure that those deposits are fully collateralized each night. Mr.
Zimmerman added that there are currently no sweep accounts, but one sentence could be
added to City Policy FR-007: Investments and Cash Management to address this issue.
ELECTRIC AND GAS FRANCHISE FEES
Mr. Zimmerman explained that this is a follow up to the May 9, 2023 Workshop discussion
regarding the renegotiation of three franchise agreements (two with Xcel Energy for electric
and natural gas, and one with the City of North St. Paul for electric), which are all subject to
expiration on October 28, 2023. Additionally, staff was directed to work with Xcel Energy to
obtain information about their gas and electric revenues to project out what a percentage-
based model might look like for the City. Mr. Zimmerman reviewed the theoretical revenue
generated using a three percent fee (3%) for the three most recently completed calendar
years, which was illustrated in the attachments titled Xcel Gas Franchise Fee Analysis and the
Xcel Electric Franchise Fee Analysis.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the potential opposition from
Xcel Energy if the City were to switch to a percentage-based fee, Mr. Zimmerman stated there
is likely not a scenario in which they can refuse to implement the City’s requested fee structure
change.
In response to Council Member Her’s question about how to quantify the impact on residential
accounts, Mr. Zimmerman directed him to look at the equivalent monthly flat fee column, but
noted that the actual monthly fee will fluctuate based on usage.
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Council Member Morcomb asked if the fluctuation in fees will be difficult for budgeting
purposes. Mr. Zimmerman said if there is proper planning and prioritization of projects then
there should not be a problem with this type of model.
City Administrator Chris Volkers suggested possibly communicating the forecasted increase
to the commercial accounts before the change would take effect being they are seemingly
most affected by the proposed change. Mayor Zabel said this would be a difficult conversation
to have.
Council Member Her asked if a tiered-model would be possible, suggesting a flat fee for
commercial accounts and a percentage-based fee for residential accounts. Ms. Volkers stated
this model would be a logistical burden on the City.
Council Member Ingebrigtson and Ms. Volkers asked Finance Director Zimmerman how a
tiered-model might work logistically. Mr. Zimmerman explained that several more ordinances
would need to be passed on a more frequent basis given the differing rates per account type.
He also noted that the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) may question the rate structure upon
request for approval.
Council Member Ingebrigtson was supportive of the proposed fee increases.
Council Member Willenbring was supportive of a percentage-based model, but was opposed
to raising the rates overall.
Council Member Her stated that the proposed percentage-based model will have a
disproportionate impact on the larger businesses in the City. He suggested that commercial
accounts receive a 1.5 percent increase versus the proposed three percent increase for
residential accounts. Mayor Zabel noted that large commercial properties are responsible for
half of all kilowatt usage in the City. It was further discussed that it appears that commercial
accounts have been paying less than their disproportioned share over past years and the
residential accounts have been bearing a majority of the burden, so it may be time to even
out the fees and a percentage model does that.
Mayor Zabel philosophically could not support the use of a lower percentage for commercial
properties than residential properties. Council Member Morcomb was in favor of using the
same percentage-based fee for both types of accounts.
Staff was directed to work on updating the franchise fees to three percent for all accounts.
Ms. Volkers offered her thanks to Mr. Zimmerman for all the work he has put into this including
all the research and significant conversations with Xcel to-date.
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GLENBROOK SMALL AREA PLAN UPDATE – ALTERNATE SELECTION
City Planner Luke McClanahan provided background on the Glenbrook Small Area Plan
including the location of the site, the purpose of the study, and its past completed phases.
Kristin Baldonado, Urban Planner with Stantec, provided the results of the truck traffic study,
noting sixty trucks (which included both residential and commercial) were seen driving on
Upper 51st Street in a 24-hour period.
Ms. Baldonado stated that as part of Phase 3, the consultant met with MnDOT to discuss the
spacing of a new interchange at Highway 120/Century Avenue and a possible frontage road
exiting onto Century Avenue at 50th Street. She noted that MnDOT does not want any of the
proposed frontage road in any of the MnDOT right-of-way.
In response to Council Member Her’s question about buying parcel 6211 in order to use the
right-of-way, Mr. McClanahan noted that if the property owner expands or there is
redevelopment then the City can acquire some of the right-of-way at that time without having
to purchase it and without using eminent domain.
Ms. Baldonado also noted that MnDOT confirmed there will be full access at 50th Street onto
Century Avenue in the new interchange.
In response to Council Member Ingebrigtson’s question about how to proceed with Alternate
B if MnDOT will not let the City use its right-of-way, Mayor Zabel said the City can approach
Tice-Hause Design Build, LLC to ask about their future plans.
Ms. Baldonado went over the key questions for consideration and staff’s recommendations.
The Council agreed with staff’s preferred alternate which is Alternate B. She then asked if
Council agreed with staff’s recommendation to re-guide the parcels associated with 6149 and
6138 Upper 51st St N to allow for mixed use development. Mayor Zabel would be opposed to
land use changes unless the City has come to an agreement with MnDOT for use of their right-
of-way, although the rest of the Council did not weigh in on this.
Lastly, Ms. Baldonado asked if there is a preference to bring the industrial properties into
compliance with current zoning regulations. Mayor Zabel could not identify a current business
within the Glenbrook Small Area that was out of compliance, but staff didn’t respond. Council
Member Morcomb would not want to seek out zoning compliance issues, but stated they
should be addressed as they come up, like current City practice.
Council was comfortable with all recommendations as presented by staff to be included in the
consultant’s final plan.
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WILLOWBROOKE ACCESSORY APARTMENTS – ELIGIBILITY FOR THE CITY’S RENTAL HOUSING
LICENSE PROGRAM
Mr. McClanahan introduced the topic by stating that at the June 27, 2023 Regular City Council
meeting, Lennar Corporation will request to amend the Willowbrooke Planned Unit
Development (PUD) to allow accessory apartments on certain single-family residential lots in
certain parts of the PUD. Accessory apartments are described in City Code as complete,
separate housekeeping units that can be isolated from the primary dwelling. He asked for
Council direction on inclusion of accessory apartments in the City’s Rental Housing Licensing
program, but noted staff’s public safety concerns with doing so.
In response to Mayor Zabel’s question about current rental housing restrictions for R1-R5
zoning districts, Mr. McClanahan said that in districts R1-R4, the property owner must reside
in either the primary or secondary dwelling.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about increased crime rate with these
types of apartments, Police Chief Nick Newton stated that he does not know if there is a
correlation, but added that these accessory apartments can easily be used as short-term
rentals.
Mr. McClanahan reviewed the renderings and floor plans of the accessory apartments. The
developer plans to offer these separate, yet attached, living quarters as an option to
prospective home buyers who are interested in multigenerational living arrangements. There
is a separate and distinct outside entrance in the proposed plans.
Mayor Zabel asked for greater clarification on how the City defines an accessory apartment,
specifically mentioning a housing addition or a finished basement as examples. Mr.
McClanahan indicated it can be hard to make that distinction, but ultimately an accessory
apartment would need the bare minimum essentials of a dwelling (i.e., restroom, small
kitchenette, and a sleeping quarters). Council Member Willenbring asked if it needed to have
a separate entrance from the primary dwelling. Mr. McClanahan noted that the Code does not
specify.
Mayor Zabel stated that his opinion is to keep consistency, all accessory apartments in the
R1-R5 districts should be subject to the same standards. Council Member Ingebrigtson
agreed.
Council Member Morcomb noted a concern about the influx of people coming and going in a
family-oriented neighborhood due to the possibility of the accessory apartments being used
as short-term rentals.
Staff was requested to ask the developer about their sound proofing mechanisms, as Council
Member Willenbring referenced a personal experience shared by family members with a
similar setup.
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The Council was comfortable with the building of accessory apartments, but continued to
discuss the eligibility of these dwellings in the City’s Rental Housing Licensing program.
Mayor Zabel said that he is comfortable with allowing them or not, but would like to remain
consistent with all other residential zoning districts in the City.
Council Member Ingebrigtson suggested allowing rentals for detached accessory apartments,
but not allowing them for attached accessory apartments.
Council Member Morcomb would be comfortable allowing these accessory apartments to be
used for long-term rentals versus short-term rentals, and asked if the City Code currently has
these specifications for other areas. Mayor Zabel stated that the City Code does not make a
distinction between short- and long-term rental.
Fire Chief Kevin Wold noted that there is one address for these two separate dwellings which
can pose a public safety concern when responding to an emergency call.
Staff was requested to bring back examples of other cities’ regulations for this type of
development model. Woodbury and Inver Grove Heights were suggested. Mayor Zabel also
suggested reaching out to St. Paul Area Association of Realtors for information.
Staff was also requested to research how addresses are assigned for this type of accessory
apartment.
Mayor Zabel suggested that if the occupant of the accessory apartment is of familial relation
then it should not be subject to the City’s Rental Housing Licensing program, but if the
occupant of the accessory apartment is not of familial relation then it should be subject to the
City’s Rental Housing Licensing program. Mr. McClanahan stated that he will consult with legal
counsel about this suggestion.
SPONSOR A SIGN PROPOSAL: HOT ASPHALT ON PAWS
Communications Manager Lori Pulkrabek provided background information about a possible
sponsorship program for hot asphalt signs that could be placed along walking paths in the
City.
Mayor Zabel noted that due to increased requests from residents for other (mostly safety-
related) signage which cannot be accommodated due to the City’s policy to operate under the
Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, it may be hard for him to support this proposal.
Council Member Morcomb stated that the purchase of these signs may be outside of the
scope of proper use of City funds. Council Member Willenbring asked if he would be okay with
sponsorship, Council Member Morcomb was unsure of that process. Mayor Zabel explained
that the discussion is about if the City would solicit donations to fund the program.
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Council Member Morcomb asked if that falls into the same category as donations to the City
as defined in City Policy MIS-019. Mayor Zabel confirmed, in his opinion.
Mayor Zabel was supportive of sponsorship, but asked that elected officials solicit donations
instead of City staff. Council Member Her agreed, and volunteered to solicit donations. Council
Member Morcomb was in favor of the sponsorship program.
Staff was asked to create collateral and parameters for elected officials to use while soliciting
donations. Ms. Volkers stated she would speak with legal counsel about this.
In response to Council Member Ingebrigtson’s question about having the sponsor’s logo on
the sign, Ms. Volkers said that is not a part of the proposed sponsorship program.
MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION – FIRE CHIEF
Chief Wold highlighted a few department updates including the transition to a career
department at the beginning of the 2023 calendar year, and the creation of an alumni
organization to connect past and current members. He discussed the need for the addition of
a Fire Marshal position, possibly starting January 1, 2025, as the current contractor will likely
retire within the next couple years.
Chief Wold touched on the age of the two fire stations, noting that Fire Station #1 was built in
2003 and Fire Station #2 was built in 1997. He added that both of the current fire stations
were designed and built in locations to accommodate a volunteer fire department in which
community members could respond quickly from home. With the transition to a career staff,
in the next few years it would be appropriate to look into whether these buildings are in the
best location for a career fire department, and the possibility of going to one main station. Ms.
Volkers suggested a location study to determine where a new fire station could be built or if
multiple fire stations are needed. There was a brief discussion about possible locations for a
single fire station, but Chief Wold stated he would like to develop a strategic plan to address
this need after the other new City facilities are completed.
Chief Wold reviewed the total run report and the ambulance run report for 2022, noting a 13%
increase over 2021.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the status of the new fire truck
and the funds being provided by Norhart Construction, Chief Wold stated that the new truck
will be delivered in December. He added that Norhart Construction has provided funds for
equipment and training on the new high-rise building being built to train on firefighting
strategies and tactics.
Council Member Willenbring asked if the collection of the ambulance billing has improved
since the City moved to a new biller/collector vendor in early 2022. Chief Wold indicated there
have been improvements with this process.
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In response to Council Member Her’s question about the Left Blank category on the 2022
total run report, Chief Wold said that is typically when the City does not end up transporting a
patient.
SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER(S) FOR SCHOOL YEAR 2023-2024
Chief Newton recapped a meeting held on May 19, 2023 between administration from
Independent School District (ISD) 622 and the Chiefs of Police for Oakdale, Maplewood, and
No. St. Paul. He noted that ISD 622 verbally committed to fully fund one School Resource
Officer (SRO) as a licensed police officer at Tartan High School for school year 2023-2024,
noting this does not address the need for an SRO at Skyview Middle School. Chief Newton
also described an alternative solution to police officers in schools brought up by the ISD
Superintendent, but noted some of the operational challenges involved with her proposed
idea.
Discussion ensued about the next steps that should be taken in regards to what has been
offered thus far and the agreement that is in the process of being finalized for the 2023-2024
school year. The Council proposed adding language to the agreement to specify that the fully
funded SRO is strictly assigned to Tartan High School. Chief Newton agreed.
Chief Newton said he has a meeting with the Assistant Superintendent on Friday, and will get
clarification on the proposed agreement and get this done.
2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION UPDATE ON LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX (L.O.S.T.)
Ms. Pulkrabek provided a brief recap of the legislature’s decision regarding the City’s request
to provide an inflationary adjustment to the local option sales tax. The legislature provided the
City with the ability to go back to the voters to request the inflationary adjustment for our two
legislative and voter approved projects. She noted that if the City decides to go that route,
there is a deadline of September 1, 2023 to pass a Resolution, and put one or both of the
questions on the ballot within the next two years.
Mayor Zabel suggested adopting the resolution to keep the option available, but noted that it
does not commit the City to putting the questions on the ballot in the future. The Council was
supportive of this suggestion.
ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE
Ms. Volkers stated that the first application of organic fertilizer has been applied at Guthrie
Park.
Ms. Volkers announced an employee appreciation barbeque, hosted by management, will
take place on August 16th. She asked for feedback about the Council serving alongside
management.
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Ms. Volkers asked for Council’s opinion in regards to Landfall residents receiving the Hyundai
Motor America steering wheel locks. She laid out a tiered-approach for distribution, and the
Council was supportive.
Ms. Volkers noted that due to the robust workshop agenda on June 27th, she will provide food
for those in and cautioned that the agenda will go very late with continuation or workshop
after the Council meeting.
COUNCIL TOPICS
Council Member Morcomb stated that the President of the Silver Lake Improvement
Association reached out to ask if the City will help fund environmental cleanup efforts for Silver
Lake. Ms. Volkers said the City will respond to this request.
Council Member Her stated that he attended the North St. Paul High School graduation and
was able to network with several ISD 622 school board members.
Mayor Zabel noted that he will be attending the Oak Meadows 25th anniversary event on June
15th. He also reviewed some of the keynote Summerfest events, and asked that any photos
taken be sent to Ms. Pulkrabek.
ADJOURNMENT
The workshop was adjourned at 8:35 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Sara Ludwig, City Clerk
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