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Neighborhood District 2 Meeting Minutes Oak Hills, Wasatch, Foothills, Provost, Provost South, and Spring Creek Neighborhoods Wednesday, February 7, 2024, 6:00 PM, Provo City Hall Community Room 445 W Center St Board Members in attendance: Kristina Davis, Hannah Petersen, Ryan Nelson (zoom), McKay Jensen, Ruth Eldredge Thomas, Katherine Hall, Ashley Rayback, Mitzi Collins (zoom), Mary Millar, Ann Woodbury Attendance: Harold Stokes, Kay Stokes, Melanie McCord, Bethany Tolley, David Lucero, Kimberly Morris, Kandis Gasdik, Natalie & Andrew Tate, Katherine Pretlow Zoom attendance: Dan Thomas, Janene K, JAson McGowan, Meili, Vickie Knecht, Curtis Wursten, John S., Jennifer Reece, Stapley, Katie Holmes. Welcome: Katherine Hall, Chair. As a closing act of being chair she sent a letter for CDGB funds to be used for restrooms at Memorial Park. If you would like to encourage this, you can send an email as well. 1. Public Works Department Topics (6:00-6:30 PM) – Traffic Manager Vern Keeslar. A. 300 North 1020 East 3-Way Stop Study. Land use has changed over the years, and at one time it probably warranted a three-way stop. Now people are no longer stopping there. Vern looked at data over the years and the one crash that happened was caused by a drunk driver. (Please insert slide show here if that works. Thanks). There are only 152 vehicles going east and west bound all day, and there are only 26 units in that direction southbound. It doesn’t meet the criteria for a three-way stop. There are opportunities for change: 1) Remove the east bound and west bound stop signs, and then put a sign that says “cross traffic does not stop.” Move East crosswalk that doesn’t meet the ADA standards. 2) Keep it the way it is. Thoughts from the public: 1) That stop sign is very much needed when you get out of state conference when you want to head south. There will be a couple instances per year when you wish it was there. 2) She ran that stop sign a couple of days ago so it seems like who drives West and expects the traffic to stop, but it won’t. If that’s not feasible given the heavy volumes of traffic, maybe a light to make it more visible. Vern: Yes, there can be a flashing beacon on the top of the southbound stop sign. 3) Councilor McKay, she used to live there and only saw people there on Sundays. 4) How does moving any stop signs affect any development to come? Have you contacted the people who live on 3rd S? Vern: We could send a letter to those living by and see what they say. It makes it a little bit more dangerous because they’re not stopping. He will reach out to the residents on them. We don’t have a lot of development over there; there is a one ten-parcel development coming but other than that there isn’t a lot of development coming from the East. 5) The State legislature is wanting a lot of building by the State Hospital and then that changes the game. 6) Melanie McCord: This was put in during the olympics, but the city has progressively over the last 30 years started moving to making this road a collector street. Vern: Doesn’t think the road is a collector road now. Land use does change things and that would have a significant impact. 7) Jason McGowin: He lives in the neighborhood there and there is almost no traffic there. People speed through it all the time. Anything at the hospital would not affect the stop sign at all, or the development a few roads up. He has no problem with it being removed. Vern: There is now a roundabout there. B. Cinnamon Ridge Drive Speed Study. Please put the slide show in here if possible. Thanks. According to the results, almost everybody was under the speed limit or within the speed limit. Overall, 242 vehicles daily, which is small. In summary: There is not a problem here, although there were a few speeders. No solutions needed. Comments: 1) Kristina Davis: What are the five biggest traffic problems you’re addressing? She represents the Slate Canyon Drive people who feel there is a concern. Vern: Speeding, red light running, there are also 10-12 studies going on at all times. Kristina: We had your report in November that Slate Canyon didn’t merit any further work and so they want to understand what parts of the city we should be aware of so that  we can learn to think broadly across the city. (See results here: https://www.provo.org/home/showpublisheddocument/22202/638173474398330000) Additional Info can be found on April 20th. 2023 Meeting Minutes (https://www.provo.org/home/showpublisheddocument/22254/638179184200600000) Vern: Canyon Road, 1450 North on Grandview Hill, 500 West, Lakeview Parkway, Freedom Blvd. He’s going to bring numbers a year later as promised. 2) Kandis Gasdik, when you do the studies, do you consider the people pulling out of the driveway, it’s slow, so you only get an average. There aren’t crosswalks for two miles and there are kids walking home. Vern: These are broken down into five mile segments, so he knows how people are driving. He has to go by the averages and the 85th percentile to treat every street the same to do data analysis. He’s going to look at crosswalks. He can do this in the Spring. 3) Melanie McCord, Have the difference of livability standards been met? They are no longer in the last two or three master transportation plans. Vern: Slate Canyon is designated as a collector street. Kandis: When they moved there, it was a dead end and it was a single family zone and there was no cutthrough to 300 S. It was not a collector road and now it has been changed to a collector road and it has been frustrating. Is having a single family home on a collector road illegal? Was the zoning law changed? Is it illegal what happened? Vern: It was designated as a collector when it was first built, it wasn’t a through street. Provo recommend there be no access there but because of the topography and how it was developed the city allowed for driveways to become a collector. 4) Katherine Hall: Work with the safety council at your local elementary school. Show where the children cross the street. 2. Selection of District 2 Chair & Vice Chairs (6:30-6:45 PM) – Coordinator Rachel Breen. A. Statements by board members running for Chair & Vice Chair. B. Hand out ballots. C. Vote for three. D. Retrieval of ballots (most votes=Chair, second & third most votes=Vice Chairs). 3. Matching Grant Discussion (6:45-7:00 PM) – District 2 Executive Board Members. A. Old North Willow Lane Pathway Katherine Hall: One of the things we thought about doing last year was working on Old North Willow Lane. We ran into some problems with that because the property lines are different. The city doesn’t own the land, and no one is sure who owns it, it is in a no-man’s land. Some of it goes across residential property, some of it is between property lines, so we would still like to do this project with our matching grant and CDBG funds to help with it (put in low lights, improve the pathway), so that children walking to the new Wasatch would be able to walk there without walking on the roads. It is being used right now to access the Y Trail. McKay Jensen: The community is excited that there would be improvements that could be done to the path. B. Who wants to be the lead on this matching grant: McKay knows some of the people who own it, he would still have to work with the city, but depending on the type of improvements but when the service project came in they didn’t know about it but were happy to hear that it might be happening by the city. Katherine: If Timpanogos Canal Company is involved, they said they are willing to give a letter stating that we have the right to improve that property as well. We have the support, we just need to work with the city. McKay Jensen will be the lead. Ruth: She has discussed with several of the property owners who backs onto it. The gap of ownership goes behind their houses. So far the families have been very interested. They’re used to the number of people who also use it. Katherine: We’re hoping that the children from Wasatch will use it. Mary Millar: Are CDBG funds and matching grants allowed to go to fees that might be involved with this? Katherine: We ran into the issue before, we can use CDBG funds and make sure to call it a pathway not a trail, so using the correct terminology allows us to use money from the correct departments. McKay: Anything from the grant will go towards the pathway. If there are filing fees or anything he thinks he can find donors for it. C. First step – permissions from Timpanogos Canal Company, Provo City, homeowners along the trail. Kristina Davis: I motion we use Old Willow Pathway for our matching grant. Ruth: Second  Vote is Unanimous in favor of 4. Announcement of new District 2 Chair & Vice Chairs (7:00 PM) – Coord. Rachel Breen. Chair: McKay Jensen Vice Chairs: Ruth Eldredge Thomas, Katherine Hall 5. Selection of District 2 Secretary (7:00-7:15 PM) – Coordinator Rachel Breen. A. Statements by board members running for Secretary. B. Hand out ballots. C. Vote for one. D. Retrieval of ballots (most votes=Secretary). 6. Public Comment (7:15-7:30 PM) – New District 2 Chair. Melanie McCoard: She just asked Katrice if the city had received for Buckley Draw, remember that the sale of that land was to be earmarked for development for the ballparks at the top of Bicentennial Park. Katrice: We do know about that and it has been confirmed by the administration. Kristina Davis: Report back on the matching grant from last year, give a huge shoutout to Katherine Hall to make it actually happen–bike racks at Slate Canyon Park, Wayfinding Signs through trailhead, viewing bench. The Parks Department came and moved the boulder, so we’re hoping to have that all installed and have as many people come out on Saturday, April 27th, 9-11 AM to help with the hours needed for the finishing of the project. We couldn’t finish the park before because of the weather. Kristina did a lot of heavy lifting, as did Rachel Breen. Ruth Eldredge Thomas: She has an email from six members of her community who live on or near 820 N 900 E who are very eager to talk about a bike lane along the north end. We have a lot of momentum towards it and are looking forward to discussing it. Melanie McCoard: Nevada Ave. It is not a city-dedicated street but at some point it became a city street basically, any builders were told to set aside money to help build sidewalk and gutter. It is a mess, people still use it for walking, it is under improved, at the narrowest point it is only 23 feet wide. There was a kid hit on there, it wasn’t supposed to be used as this and the city has made it a road. It is equally as important as other roads around. There are neighbors who said they would dedicate land, people were supposed to do things to maintain it but it wasn’t done. Dave Knecht: I agree, I worked with that on the council and it was a Mt. Everest problem. One of the players that didn’t really want to work with them, it was his property that they put the asphalt on by misunderstanding. Everyone gave their approval but Peter wanted them to buy it out, the city doesn’t want to spend the money to buy it out. They tried to find property to trade him but that ended. Rich Anderson owns it now and does a good job maintaining it. Kandis Gasdik: The overflow from Slate Canyon cars are parking on it, so now each house is starting to park on it. This narrows it’s already narrow area. Katherine Hall: Provo has 1000 tree project but it has to be watered. Kimberly Morris: The developer put in a sprinkler system and hooked it to a home so the homeowner then turned it off. 7. Announcement of new District 2 Secretary (7:30 PM) – Coordinator Rachel Breen. New Secretary: Ashley Rayback 8. Adjournment (7:11 PM)