Design Review Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · March 21, 2012
Minutes
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21, 2012
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Steven Rowland, Chairman; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair; Staci Mannion;
Karen Cavotta; Robert De Marco
ABSENT: Richard Martin
STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning & Economic Development
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Steven Rowland called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
Steve Rowland, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being taped for the benefit of the secretary. Because
the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED APPLICATIONS:
- 2012.013 STEWART'S SHOPS CORPORATION, 23 Union Avenue, Architectural Review of demolition in the Urban
Residential -3 District.
APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. 2012.015 GROSSMAN RESIDENCE, 169 Union Avenue, Historic Review of demolition and replacement of a garage in
the Urban Residential-4 District.
Agent: Matthew Hurff, Frost-Hurff Architects.
Mr. Hurff stated this is a simple demolition and replacement of a garage. The current garage cannot be restored.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning, and Economic Development stated this is within the Historic Review District. It is a
contributing property on the National Register.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated a garage does not have the same impact on the area as a house does.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the Design Review Commission is in receipt of a letter from the Preservation Foundation,
which stated there was no problem with the demolition, they find the proposed two story building to be an acceptable
replacement, however they find the scale and mass of the proposed attached deck/carport is inappropriate for the building
and there are concerns about the character of Ludlow Street and Morton Place.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the new garage is more in keeping with the scale of the house. Regarding the materials,
no pressure treated wood should be used in the construction.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Karen Cavotta made a motion in the application of the Grossman Residence, 169 Union Avenue that the application be
approved with the following conditions: cut sheets of the final materials are to be submitted to the Chairman. Detail
consistent on columns on deck, no pressure treated wood, windows simulated divided light, soffit/facia wood fiber cement
painted/porch and rail.
Seconded by Tamie Ehinger.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
2. 2012.020 WHEATFIELD'S BUILDING, 440 Broadway, Historic Review of color changes to the façade of building in the
Transect-6 District.
RECUSAL:
Robert West recused himself from this application as he is the contractor for this project.
Applicant: Mark Strauss and Pat Donovan.
The application is before the Board looking to review a change in the color of the façade of the building. The architect has
suggested some additional colors to the color palate. Samples were provided to the Board.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Staci Mannion made a motion in the matter of the application of the Wheatfield's Building, 440 Broadway that the
application be approved as submitted on the attached plans.
Seconded by Tamie Ehinger.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Staci Mannion, in favor;
Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0
3. 2012.021 SILVERADO, 446 Broadway, Historic Review of color changes to façade of building
in the Transect-6 District
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RECUSAL:
Robert West recused himself from this application as he is the contractor for this project.
Applicant: Mark Strauss and Pat Donovan.
The applicant is before the Board looking to change the color on the façade of the building. Color samples were provided to
the Board for their review. The new color is closer to the original color of the building. Window sashes will black, signboard
will be black and the awning is black. There will be a change in the lighting, the lights will be recessed in the soffit.
Discussion ensued regarding lighting and approval will be granted administratively.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Staci Mannion made a motion in the matter of Silverado, 446 Broadway that the application be approved as submitted. Any
changes in lighting will be approved administratively.
Seconded by Tamie Ehinger.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Staci Mannion, in favor;
Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0
Robert West resumed his position on the Board.
4. 2011.080.1 246 WEST AVENUE, 246 West Avenue, Architectural Review of a residential building in the Transect-4
District.
Agent: JT Pollard, Reform Architecture.
Mr. Pollard reviewed the project and the submitted changes for the carriage house structure in the multi-family residential
project. Changes in elevation on West Avenue were noted as well as the gable roof and the garage windows were omitted.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion by the Board.
Robert West stated he appreciated the time and effort which was taken in making the improvements.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman concurred.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
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Steven Rowland, Chairman, made a motion in the matter of the application of 246 West Avenue, 246 West Avenue new
commercial building be approved with the following conditions: This action represents a partial approval of mass and scale
of the carriage house structure in the proposed multi-family residential project. The Commission also approves the issuance
of a building permit for this carriage house structure. The applicant is required to continue review of the final details for this
carriage house structure and for the principal structure.
Seconded by Robert West.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Agenda Items #5 and #6 were heard out of order due to the applicant's agent not yet in attendance.
6. 2012.011 H & V AUTO BODY, 2200 Route 50 South, Architectural Review of façade renovations
and signage in the Highway General Business District.
Applicant: Rich Tanchek.
Agent: Ed Esposito, Architect.
Mr. Esposito stated this building was purchased approximately five weeks ago. The applicant is looking to upgrade the
building and make some façade renovations. The yellow stripe on the building will be removed. New lighting. Thermal
glazed new storefront window system. New stone base on the bottom. Samples were provided for the Boards review.
There will be only one freestanding sign. Signage proposal was reviewed. The building will be power washed and the sides
and the rear of the building will be painted.
Discussion ensued regarding the knee wall, storage of smashed/wrecked cars, and the location of a storage pod on the
property.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Steven Rowland made a motion in the matter of the application of H & V Auto body, 2202 Route 50 review of signage and
façade renovations to a commercial building be approved with the following conditions: Metal panel system over storefront
at Route 50 façade to be clear anodized insulated panels; if this changes applicant must return to the Board; storefront
manufacturer cut sheets submitted for record; cultured stone base along Route 50 façade to 18" high; stone returns on north
and south facades total height of the first horizontal girt and extends horizontal to flank both sides of entry doors in those
facades; base of remaining north and south facades to receive stone grained metal panel system to height of first horizontal
girt, above new system existing panels to be cleaned and repainted with almond color paint; rear façade also cleaned and
repainted; all storefront at Route 50 façade to be replaced, glazing sample to be submitted for approval; 2 canopies at Route
50 façade one each on north and south façade.
Seconded by Tamie Ehinger.
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Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
5. 2011.009 FAMILY DOLLAR, 2214 Route 50, Architectural Review of new commercial building in Highway General
Business District.
Applicant: Gary DeRusso.
Architect: Jerry McGoolighan.
Stone and sign information was provided per the Board's request.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the Board is still not happy with the red stripe on the front of the building.
Discussion ensued regarding the signage and the red stripe on the building.
It was a consensus of the Board that the applicant speaks to corporate headquarters regarding the stripe.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion in the matter of the application of Family Dollar, 2214 Route 50
be approved as submitted with the exception of: Red banding around the building entranceway and a freestanding sign both
of which will return before the Commission for final approval. This will allow the applicant to move forward with the
process. A monument sign not to exceed the height of Mr. DeRusso's current sign; complete with stone base and
landscaping with final approval of design to be done administratively.
Seconded by Staci Mannion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
7. 2012.018 EDWARD JONES SIGN, 34 Congress Street, Architectural Review of sign in the
Transect-6 District.
Applicant: Edward Jones
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Wall sign, with channel lighting, green background. Letters will not exceed 18". Anchorage and penetrations will be
between the mortar joints.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Rob DeMarco made a motion in the matter of the application of Edward Jones Sign, 34 Congress Street,
that the application be approved with the following conditions: Letters not to exceed 18" in height and penetrations will be in
mortar joints.
Seconded by Robert West.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
ANNOUNCE DATE OF NEXT MEETING
The next scheduled Caravan and Workshop is scheduled for Tuesday, March 27, 2012 at 5:00 P.M.
The next scheduled Design Review Commission meeting is Wednesday, April 4, 2012 at 7:00 P.M.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to approve the minutes of the February 1, 2012 meeting as written with minor
typographical modifications.
Seconded by Tamie Ehinger.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Staci Mannion, in favor;
Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1 Recusal
Robert West made a motion to approve the minutes of the February 15, 2012 meeting with a few minor corrections.
Seconded by Tamie Ehinger.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor;
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MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1 Recusal
ADJOURNMENT
Tamie Ehinger made a motion to adjourn.
Seconded by Robert West.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman in favor; Robert West, in favor;
Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Rob DeMarco, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Steven Rowland, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 10:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: 1/3/13
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Agenda
Steven Rowland, Chair
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair
Richard Martin
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION Robert West
Staci Mannion
City Hall - 474 Broadway Karen Cavotta
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Robert DeMarco
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480 Jason Tommell, Alternate
www.saratoga-springs.org
Design Review Commission Meeting – March 21, 2012
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
AGENDA
Salute to the Flag
A. 7:00PM- Applications under Consideration:
1. 2012.015 Grossman Residence, 169 Union Avenue, Historic Review of demolition and replacement of
garage in the Urban Residential-4 District.
2. 2012.020 Wheatfields Building, 440 Broadway, Historic Review of color changes to façade of building
in the Transect-6 District.
3. 2012.021 Silverado, 446 Broadway, Historic Review of color changes to façade of building in the
Transect-6 District.
4. 2012.013 Stewart’s Shops Corp., 243 Union Avenue, Architectural Review of demolition in the Urban
Residential-3 District. Adjourned to future meeting.
5. 2011.080.1 246 West Avenue, 246 West Avenue, Architectural Review of a residential building in the
Transect-4 District.
6. 2012.009 Family Dollar, 2214 Route 50, Architectural Review of new commercial building in Highway
General Business District.
7. 2012.011 H&V Autobody, 2202 Route 50 South, Architectural Review of façade renovations and
signage in the Highway General Business District.
8. 2012.018 Edward Jones Sign, 34 Congress Street, Architectural Review of sign in the Transect-6
District.
B. Approve Minutes: 2/1, 2/15, 3/7
Next Meeting: April 4, 2012
NOTE: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact
the Office of Planning and Economic Development at 587-3550 extension 2533.
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