Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · March 30, 2021
Minutes
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 Cheryl Smith
www.SaratogaRec.com John Dowd
Michelle Merola
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Virtual Meeting – moved to Zoom
Tuesday, March 30, 2021
6:30pm
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Agenda
Attendance
Public Comment
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes
2. Discussion and Vote: 2021-2022 Facility Agreements Templates
3. Discussion and Vote: 2021 Program Agreement Template
4. Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac 2021
5. Discussion and Vote: NYS OCFS/SC YB 2021 Application
6. Discussion and Vote: Accept Stewarts Holiday Match Donation - $5,500.00
7. Discussion and Vote: Accept George and Martha Parker Donation - $2,000.00
8. Discussion and Vote: Rules
9. Discussion and Vote: Camp Refund Policy
10. Discussion and Vote: Skate Park Design
11. Discussion and Vote: 2021 School Capital Funds
12. Discussion and Vote: Outdoor Court Rental
13. Discussion and Vote: Printed Shirts – Spring – Fall 2021
14. Announcement: Ice Rink User Meeting 4/28/2021 & Field User Meeting 4/6/2021 5:30pm
15. Discussion: Recreation Center Tournaments & Rentals
16. Discussion: Budget Meetings
17. Discussion: General Budget
18. Discussion: Directors Report
19. Discussion: Program Report
Adjournment - Next Meeting – Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 6:30pm at the Saratoga Springs Recreation Center, 15
Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866.
Please submit questions via email to John.Hirliman@saratoga-springs.org. Thank you.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 Cheryl Smith
www.SaratogaRec.com John Dowd
Michelle Merola
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Virtual Meeting – moved to Zoom
Tuesday, March 30, 2021
6:30pm
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86842366412?pwd=SjdBSmVWaTAzNC9vYktKV1NXZ1Vudz09
Please submit questions & for password via email to John.Hirliman@saratoga-springs.org.
Meeting ID: 868 4236 6412
Passcode: 369274
Minutes
Attendance – Robert Manasier, Amy Smith, Alphonse Lambert, Derrick Legall, Michelle Merola, Cheryl Smith,
John Dowd, John Hirliman
The Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission meeting was called to order at 6:40pm by Derrick Legall, Chair.
Public Comment - Due to circumstances, the public comment section was unable to be entertained. Public
comments will be accepted via email john.hirilman@saratoga-springs.org for the meetings while social distancing is
required. No public comments were received.
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes – The motion to accept the minutes was made by Derrick Legall and
seconded by Robert Manasier. Ayes - All.
2. Discussion and Vote: 2021-2022 Facility Agreements Templates - The motion to approve the 2021-
2022 Facility agreement templates was made by Michelle Merola and seconded by Robert Manasier.
Discussion: The Ice rink will have a $5/hour increase. Ayes - All.
3. Discussion and Vote: 2021 Program Agreement Template - The motion to approve the program
template was made by Derrick Legall and seconded by Robert Manasier. Discussion: There will be a
50/50 split in revenue less expenses between the Regional YMCA and the City of Saratoga Springs. Ayes -
All.
4. Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac 2021 - The motion to approve the Camp Saradac 2021 expenses
was made by Derrick Legall and seconded by Robert Manasier. Discussion: Currently, the Recreation
Department is waiting on the DOH Camp requirements. When they come, the Department will be going
directly to the City Council for final approval. Camp Saradac supplies costs $5,700.00, Special/Foods -
$1,000.00, Programs $ 18,990.00 which includes but not limited to the following: Jumping Bean 7/6/2021 -
$640.93, Jumping Bean 7/24/2021 - $640.93, Wilton Wildlife 7/6/2021, 7/13/2021, 7/20/2021 - $480.00 &
Saratoga Tents & Events!- $4,657.50 and Advertising - $2,260.00. Ayes - All.
5. Discussion and Vote: NYS OCFS/SC YB 2021 Application - The motion to approve the NYS
OCFS/SC YB application was made by Robert Manasier and seconded by Amy Smith. Discussion:
This is an annual request. Ayes - All.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 Cheryl Smith
www.SaratogaRec.com John Dowd
Michelle Merola
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Virtual Meeting – moved to Zoom
Tuesday, March 30, 2021
6:30pm
6. Discussion and Vote: Accept Stewarts Holiday Match Donation - $5,500.00 - The motion to accept the
Stewarts Holiday Match donation $5,500.00 was made by Derrick Legall and seconded by Michelle
Merola. Discussion: The funding is for volleyball system, The Recreation Department is looking to
improve our Game Room, Camp, Programs and Training with equipment, volleyball system
replacement and program & camp scholarships. Our activities are designed to promote fun and
fitness while providing opportunities for the neediest and most at-risk children in the Saratoga
County area to learn and grow in a safe environment. Ayes - All.
7. Discussion and Vote: Accept George and Martha Parker Donation - $2,000.00 - The motion to accept
the George and Martha Parker $2,000.00 donation was made by Amy Smith and seconded by Michelle
Merola. Discussion: The donation is for scholarships. Ayes - All.
8. Discussion and Vote: Rules – This item was pulled. The rules were discussed. The lights for the Tennis,
Pickleball and Basketball courts have been disabled until the locks are changed. When enabled, the lights
will run until 8:30pm thru Memorial Day weekend, Memorial Day Weekend-Labor Day until 10pm and after
Labor Day until 8:30pm.
9. Discussion and Vote: Camp Refund Policy The motion to continue to providing no refunds for 2021
Camp Program was made by Amy Smith and seconded by Alphonse Lambert. Discussion: The
Recreation Commission discussed the parameters of the Camp refund policy. Derrick Legall asked what other
camp were doing? John Hirliman explained if the City closed the program, they provided a refund. Michelle
Merola asked about a partial refund. Robert Manasier mentioned that it is impossible to prove. John
Hirliman explained that kids are in pods and last year they were encouraged to wear masks. The policy listed
in Community Pass is “Please make sure you select the proper program when registering. No refunds or
credits will be given unless the Recreation Department cancels or changes a program”. Derrick Legall
explained that there were no plans for Little League baseball to provide refunds. Michelle Merola said it
would be difficult to police. People can’t come back to camp for a week. Robert Manasier asked would
being out affect the child’s scholarship. John Hirliman said it should not if out for medical reason. Ayes -
All.
10. Discussion and Vote: Skate Park Design - The motion to accept the recommended Skate Park design
was made by Michelle Merola and seconded by Robert Manasier. Discussion: The funding had been
pulled. Skate Park was looking to cost $260,000.00. By accepting the design, groups can fundraise for the
Skate Park. The Recreation Commission was recommending adding it the Capital funding requests when the
finances are better. Ayes - All.
11. Discussion and Vote: 2021 School Capital Funds - The motion to recommend the 2021 School Capital
funding DPW projects was made by Derrick Legall and seconded by Michelle Merola. Discussion: The
School agreement was extending to 2021. DPW Projects are submitted to the school district for approval.
Ayes - All.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 Cheryl Smith
www.SaratogaRec.com John Dowd
Michelle Merola
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Virtual Meeting – moved to Zoom
Tuesday, March 30, 2021
6:30pm
12. Discussion and Vote: Outdoor Court Rental - The motion to rent outdoor Tennis and Basketball
courts on a case by case basis was made by John Dowd and seconded by Derrick Legall. Discussion:
The Recreation Commission discussed the outdoor rentals. The fee will be $20.00 per hour city and $25.00
per hour non city residents. The outdoor courts are open to the public. John Dowd recommended mornings
for the Basketball courts. The courts are heavily used nights and weekends. Derrick Legall recommended to
avoid renting during prime time hours. Cheryl Smith said from 4:30pm to night West Side courts are being
used. John Dowd agreed not to run rentals during that time. John Hirliman explained that the Department
could provide a permit to the rental group. Alphonse Lambert did not want it to get away from the spirit of
recreation. Amy Smith suggested a win-win approach by renting early basketball courts when kids are may
not be up yet or in school. The Department could obtain rental revenue during that time. Alphonse Lambert
recommended renting out Hathorn Courts. The Recreation Commission agreed to offer rentals on a case by
case basis during non peak hours. The time and the number of courts needed would dictate availability to
rent. Cheryl Smith stated that the am time for pickleball would be prime time. John Dowd recommended
renting the tennis courts during non peak hours on a case by case basis. Ayes - All.
13. Discussion and Vote: Printed Shirts – Spring – Fall 2021 The motion to accept Waltons Sports Shop
to provide the Spring – Fall Printed Shirts was made by Amy Smith and seconded by Derrick Legall.
Discussion: The Recreation Commission discussed the quote. Ayes - All.
14. Announcement: Ice Rink User Meeting 4/28/2021 & Field User Meeting 4/6/2021 5:30pm
The Administrative Director announced the Ice Rink and Field User Meeting dates and times.
15. Discussion: Recreation Center Tournaments & Rentals – The Administrative Director meet
with the Tournament and rental groups. The groups can run 2 collegiate courts with limited spectators or 4 Jr.
High Courts with no spectators. Volleyball was looking to run 4 courts with no spectators. John Dowd
recommended keeping it to more local groups is the most prudent approach.
16. Discussion: Budget Meetings – The Administrative Director will be meeting with the Mayor and
the Commissioner of Finance regarding the 2021 budget. The 2021 budget is very tight.
17. Discussion: General Budget – The Recreation Commission discussed the February 2021 and
Yearend 2020 MUNIS budget reports included in the agenda.
18. Discussion: Directors Report - The Administrative Director gave his Director’s Report.
19. Discussion: Program Report – The Recreation Commission reviewed the Spring 2021, Camp
Saradac and Summer 2021 Program Statistic reports included in the agenda.
Alphonse Lambert recommended getting an additional portable mound. They are low maintenance. There have been
no complaints. They are the best thing. The cost is approximately $11,000.00. Don’t wear metal cleats when using
the mound.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 Cheryl Smith
www.SaratogaRec.com John Dowd
Michelle Merola
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Virtual Meeting – moved to Zoom
Tuesday, March 30, 2021
6:30pm
Cheryl Smith reported on the Open Space committee. There was a launch of a survey similar to the Recreation survey.
The public was asked to participate.
Derrick Legall asked if the Fitness equipment had been received. John Hirliman explained that the equipment was
received but not it was open to the public until the Fitness guidelines change.
Adjournment – The motion to adjourn the Recreation Commission meeting was made by Alphonse Lambert
and seconded by John Dowd. Ayes – All. The Next Meeting will be Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 6:30pm at the
Saratoga Springs Recreation Center, 15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Lanfear
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