Village Board
Regular MeetingSaukville, WI · August 17, 2021
Minutes
, August 17, 2021
***VILLAGE BOARD MINUTES***
August 17, 2021
SAUKVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT and VIA ZOOM
649 E. GREEN BAY AVE., SAUKVILLE, WI 53080
Village President Barb Dickmann called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Village Clerk Mary Kay Baumann gave the Statement of Public Notice.
Members: Barb Dickmann-present, Richard Belling-present, Scott Fischer-present, Trevor Seitz-present,
Jim Nowlen-present, Andy Hebein-present, and Peter Janus-present.
Others Present: Dawn Wagner, Mary Kay Baumann, Chief Meyer, Dan Helm, Sara Debruijn, Holly Skelton
(zoom), Patrick Braun (zoom), Rich (zoom), Andy Asplanalp (zoom), and Connor Carynski – Ozaukee Press.
(See Attached List)
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
CITIZEN COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS
None.
APPROVE MINUTES OF AUGUST 3, 2021 MEETING
Fischer/Nowlen made a motion to approve the August 3, 2021 minutes. Motion carried.
COMMUNICATIONS
REPORT FROM THE VILLAGE PRESIDENT
Dickmann thanked everyone for attending.
REPORT FROM THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR
Wagner welcomed everyone.
PUBLIC HEARING – TO HEAR COMMENTS REGARDING A ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST
SUBMITTED BY BARBARA SCHWISTER AD TIMOTHY SCHWISTER TO AMEND §205-1.G(5) TO ALLOW THE
KEEPING OF CERTAIN POULTRY IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS
Chris Lear-410 Claremont, expressed concerns regarding the keeping of chickens in the Village. There are 2
reasons, sight and sound. He stated, “I live on a ¼ acre lot and the potential number of coops that could be in
my neighborhood is concerning”. Lear felt that the current Zoning Code was set to maintain certain standards in
the Village.
Tim Schwister (petitioner) replied that it was an important concern. He stated that his brother in Oshkosh has
chickens and they have had no complaints.
Dan Cook asked about Guinee Hens, stating that “they are louder than any dog barking”. He added, “why
chickens”?
Ralph Drzwicki stated that he lives in the Village. He lives across from Peninsula Park and there are 20-30 geese
on a daily basis. He lived in Washington Heights and had neighbors with chickens that he didn’t notice for 2
years.
Tom Murphy-400 S. Claremont, asked “why do the coops have to be at the back of the yard. If you want
chickens why can’t you place to coop by your house”? Murphy added that there are raccoons coming out of the
sewers and this will attract more, in addition there are owls and hawks in the area that will attack the chickens.
Schwister stated that rodents will not be attracted by chickens. Predators are not going to be an issue.
Schwister added that no other community has seen an increase in predators.
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Murphy asked what happens to chicken droppings?
Schwister said they can be composted immediately, adding that chicken droppings can be used to maintain
gardens.
Drzwicki commented that this is how people end up with free range chickens.
Mark Hebein stated that he is worried about pets with the increase of predators. He added that he is concerned
about the smell and the feathers.
Schwister stated that having chickens teaches kids responsibility and is an excellent hobby.
Diane Abbey read an incident report from the City of Cedarburg:
“The City of Cedarburg has allowed chickens for a few years. We have not had any complaints regarding
noise, but we do not allow roosters. We only have had maybe a dozen families raise chickens and most
only kept them for a year or so and then stopped.” (City of Cedarburg – Michael Baier)
Mark Hebein stated, “if kids want to learn about farm animals why not enroll them in 4-H”?
Wendy Wagner, Saukville resident, stated that she grew up in Kenosha and her great-grandmother had chickens.
Her grandmother and mother had them after that. They were all raised in the same house. She said those were
the best years of her life.
Mickey Schreiner stated that she lives in Port Washington and is a teacher in Grafton and wanted to share the
benefits of learning about chickens and eggs. 3-4 chickens will not smell unless the owner is not taking care of
them.
Holly Skelton-117 Weiss Way (zoom), said that she did not appreciate the insinuation that people are raising
their children in a bad way. She stated that she grew up in Saukville, moved away and chose to come back. She
added there are other options besides actually having chickens on your property.
Skelton added that her child has health issues and she is concerned about the dust that is kicked up from the
chickens scratching as well as bird mites. She doesn’t want a chicken coop on her property line and is
concerned about the chickens escaping.
Joshua Abbey-Deer Pass Road, stated he is pro-chicken. “You can go around and around about the noise and the
poop”. He feels the Board needs to consider having the chickens as specified, as they allow other animals. It
would be like having any other animal, adding that not taking care of them is another issue.
Murphy asked who would be inspecting the chickens/coops?
Dawn Wagner stated, should the Board choose to approve this ordinance, there would be a permitting process
and there would be a 4-chicken limit.
Schwister acknowledged that is something he overlooked when submitting the text amendment but was in favor
of a required permit and licensing fee.
Murphy stated, “you say it’s for the kids but we all know who ends up taking care of them”.
There was concern about chicks being mislabeled and residents ending up with roosters what happens to the
roosters?
Schwister stated that there are Chicken Swap Meets throughout the state and roosters can be traded.
Schwister stated that it would be a great opportunity for the Village to hold a Chicken Swap Meet. It would
bring upwards of 3,000-20,000 visitors to the Village. They would fill the hotels and patronize the local
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businesses. It would “put Saukville on the map”!
Vanessa Schwengel stated that, although she doesn’t live in the Village, she visits frequently. She stressed that
with the times we live in, people are more stressed and have more mental health issues and this could be a
benefit to those contemplating suicide.
Cook stated that he is concerned about predators, adding that they may not go for the chickens but would go for
the eggs. He was also concerned about property values if his neighbors have chickens.
Stephan Zehnder said he can’t afford a big farm. He wants his kids to learn about chickens. He is a stay-at-
home dad and also home schools his children. He would love to have chickens for the eggs.
Diane Hamm lives in the Town of Saukville and has chickens. She stated that most animals that go after
chickens do so at night, noting that the chickens would be in their coops before dark. She didn’t feel that could
be used as a reason not to have chickens.
Schwister stated, yes, raccoons like eggs but if the residents are responsible about having chickens, this
shouldn’t be an issue.
Mark Hebein stated that he had a neighbor’s dog get grabbed by an owl during the day.
Schwister stated that he grew up with chickens when he lived in the town.
Belling noted that the same things are being repeated and felt that the Public Hearing should be closed.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Belling/Seitz made a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Seitz asked how many families are wanting to raise chickens? Joshua Abbey stated that it would be purely a
guess.
Motion carried at 7:45 p.m.
Wagner explained the two ordinances listed on the agenda for consideration.
Option #1 was the language submitted by Barbara and Tim Schwister. Option #2 was the language submitted by
the Village after staff and legal review.
The motion from Plan Commission to approve Option #2 failed.
Wagner stated that per State Statute, the text amendment request still had to be reviewed at a Public Hearing
at the Village Board.
ORD. #812A – AMENDING §205-21.G(5) AND CREATING §205-21.H OF THE CODE – USE RESTRICTIONS
(POULTRY)
Belling/Nowlen made a motion to waive the 1st reading of Ord. #812A – Amending §205-21.G(5) and Creating
§205-21.H of the Code – Use Restrictions (Poultry). Motion carried.
Belling/Nowlen made a motion to waive the reading of Ord. #812A – Amending §205-21.G(5) and Creating §205-
21.H of the Code – Use Restrictions (Poultry). Motion carried.
ORD. #812B - AMENDING §205-21.G(5) AND CREATING §205-21.H OF THE CODE – USE RESTRICTIONS
(POULTRY)
Nowlen/Hebein made a motion to waive the 1st reading of Ord. #812B – Amending §205-21.G(5) and Creating
§205-21.H of the Code – Use Restrictions (Poultry). Motion carried.
Dickmann asked for a motion to waive the reading. At that time, Tim Schwister requested a reading of the
Ordinance so they all knew what was being voted on. Being that it was a 4-page ordinance, Dawn Wagner
offered to put it up on the screen for everyone to read.
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Belling/Nowlen made a motion to approve Ord. #812B - Amending §205-21.G(5) and Creating §205-21.H of the
Code – Use Restrictions (Poultry). Roll call vote was taken – Fischer/Janus/Hebein/Dickmann voting nay –
Seitz/Nowlen/Belling voting aye – Motion failed.
PUBLIC HEARING – TO HEAR COMMENTS REGARDING A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY LUKE CHECK (OWNER) TO RE-
ZONE A 9.5938-ACRE PARCEL ON CTH “W” FROM B-2 RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BUSINESS DISTRICT TO R-1
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT UPON THE CONDITION THAT OZAUKEE COUNT WILL RECONSTRUCT
CTH “W” (RIVERSIDE DRIVE) TO RAISE IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. TAX KEY NO. 11-050-05-02-000.
Wagner stated that the Plan Commission reviewed the request to re-zone the property on CTH “W” and
recommended it to Village Board for approval.
Wagner stated that improvements on the parcel would only be possible after review and approval by the Plan
Commission and Village Board if the County raised CTH “W” out of the floodplain and emergency service
vehicles have safe access to the property during a flood event. If the reconstruction of CTH “W” is completed
by November 1, 2024, then the rezoning of the Property to R-1 Single-Family District shall take effect
immediately after completion of the reconstruction is confirmed in writing by the Village Department of Public
Works Superintendent, but if the reconstruction is not completed by November 1, 2024, then the conditional
rezoning shall be deemed null and void. This is a conditional re-zoning.
Seitz asked for confirmation that no plans had been approved for construction on this parcel? Wagner stated,
correct.
Nowlen asked, “so, if we approve this, he still can’t start any construction until CTH “W” is done”? Wagner
stated, correct.
Fischer asked why he would want this not knowing whether or not he could even build?
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
Belling/Seitz made a motion to close the Public Hearing. Motion carried at 8:08 p.m.
ORD. #813 – REZONING PROPERTY ON N RIVERSIDE DRIVE – B-2 – RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BUSINESS
DISTRICT TO R-1 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT
Belling/Nowlen made a motion to waive the 1st reading of Ord. #813 – Rezoning property on N Riverside Drive –
B-2 - Retail Shopping Center Business District to R-1 – Single-Family Residential District. Motion carried.
Fischer/Hebein made a motion to waive the reading of Ord. #813 – Rezoning property on N. Riverside Drive – B-
2 – Retail Shopping Center Business District to R-1 – Single-Family Residential District. Motion carried.
Belling/Janus made a motion to approve Ord. #813 – Rezoning Property on N. Riverside Drive – B-2 – Retail
Shopping Center Business District to R-1 Single-Family Residential District. Roll Call vote was taken. Fischer-
abstained – Seitz/Nowlen/Hebein/Dickmann – nay – Janus/Belling – aye. Motion failed.
REPORTS OF VILLAGE BOARD COMMITTEES
Utility Committee
Fischer reported on the meeting of August 17, 2021.
Discussion was held regarding the Utility Internet/IT Upgrade Project and recommended to Finance. The
contract would be signed early to begin trenching lines but the Village would not be billed until 2022.
The design of the WWTP Improvement Project is at 60-70% completion.
The clarifiers were rebuilt in June.
Slip lining was completed on N. Mill in late July.
There were 3 large leaks (2 at the plant) in the interceptor that have been repaired.
The N. Mill lift station has been repainted inside and out.
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The new employee, Matt Strelow, is working out well and is scheduled to go for his CDL on Monday.
There is an 18-week backorder on new meters.
Public Works Committee
No report.
Public Safety Committee
No report.
Finance Committee
Dickmann reported on the meeting of August 17, 2021.
Ehlers provided an updated Financial Management Plan as well as the potential for Investment Advisory Services.
Claims for July in the amount of 380,805.70 were reviewed and approved.
The Budget Watch and Investment Report were reviewed.
A recommendation was made to the Village Board to approve the Labor Association of Wisconsin, Inc. (LAW) –
2022-2023 Police Contract.
Hebein/Nowlen made a motion to approve the Labor Association of Wisconsin, Inc. (LAW) – 2022-2023 Police
Contract. Motion carried.
A recommendation was made to approve the Utility Internet/IT Upgrade Project.
Nowlen/Hebein made a motion to approve the Utility Internet/IT Upgrade Project. Motion carried.
Other matters:
The parking lot at the Fire Department will be completed this week.
The WE Energies gas line project will be completed by the end of the month.
The Village is ranked as the 18th Safest City in Wisconsin, up 15 from last year.
REPORTS OF SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Plan Commission
No report.
Community Development Authority/Industrial Review Committee
Dickmann reported on the meeting of August 17, 2021.
The minutes of the May 4, 2021 meeting were reviewed and approved.
A request by P2 Self Storage for 5 storage buildings at 633 Progress Drive was reviewed and approved.
A request for signage by P2 Self Storage was reviewed and approved.
Library Board
Janus reported on the meeting of August 10, 2021.
Circulation at the Library shows digital increasing and physical decreasing. Janus added that funds distributed to the
Libraries are based on physical circulation so it will be interesting to see what happens.
A wage comparison study was reviewed by the Board.
Mid-Moraine Municipal Association
No report.
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LIQUOR LICENSE APPROVALS
None.
CITIZEN MATTERS AS NOTICED
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Hebein/Seitz made a motion to adjourn. Motion carried at 8:16 p.m.
Mary Kay Baumann
Village Clerk
Agenda
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AGENDA
1. Call to Order and Prayer
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Statement of Public Notice
4. Roll Call
5. Citizen Comments and Questions
6. Approval of Minutes of August 3, 2021 Meeting
7. Communications
A. Village President Comments
B. Village Administrator Comments
8. PUBLIC HEARING – To hear comments regarding a Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment request submitted by
Barbara Schwister and Timothy Schwister to amend §205-21.G(5) to allow the keeping of certain poultry in
Residential Zoning Districts – 7:00 p.m.
9. Close Public Hearing
10. PUBLIC HEARING – To hear comments regarding a request submitted by Luke Check (owner) to re-zone a
9.5938-acre parcel on CTH “W” from B-2 Retail Shopping Center Business District to R-1 Single-Family
Residential District upon the condition that Ozaukee County will reconstruct CTH “W” (Riverside Drive) to
raise it out of the floodplain. Tax Key No. 11-050-05-02-000. 7:15 p.m.
11. Close Public Hearing
12. Ordinances – Resolutions – Petitions
A. Ord. #812A –Amending §205-21.G(5) and Creating §205-21.h of the Code – Use Restrictions (Poultry)
B. Ord. #812B – Amending §205-21.G(5) and Creating §205-21.H of the Code – Use Restrictions (Poultry)
C. Ord. #813 – Rezoning Property on N. Riverside Drive - B-2 Retail Shopping Center Business District to
R-1 Single-Family Residential District
13. Reports of Village Board Committees
A. Utility Committee
a. Report on meeting of August 17, 2021
B. Public Works Committee
C. Public Safety Committee
D. Finance Committee
a. Report on meeting of August 17, 2021
b. Labor Association of Wisconsin, Inc. (LAW) – 2022-2023 Police Contract
c. Utility Internet/IT Upgrade Project
14. Reports of Special Committees
A. Plan Commission
B. Community Development Authority/Industrial Review Committee
a. Report on meeting of August 17, 2021
C. Library Board
a. Report on meeting of August 10, 2021
D. Mid-Moraine Municipal Association
15. Liquor License Approval
16. Citizen Matters as Noticed
17. Adjourn
Dawn Wagner
Village Administrator
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