Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · March 19, 2024
Minutes
TOWN OF SWANSBORO
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
MARCH 19, 2024
Call to Order
The meeting of Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at 5:52 PM.
Those in attendance were Jonathan McDaniel, Kim Kingrey, Elaine Justice, Christina Ramsey,
Lauren Brown, and ALT member Gregg Casper. Eric Young was not present.
Approval of Minutes
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, and seconded by Mrs. Kingrey, the following meeting minutes were
unanimously approved:
a. October 17, 2023, Regular Meeting Minutes
b. October 30, 2023, Special Meeting Minutes
Business
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer discussed the start time for the Historic Preservation
Commission meetings. On a unanimous decision, the board agreed to a 5:30 pm start time for
future meetings.
Text Amendment to Section 5: Windows and Doors
At the February 20, 2024, the board made a motion and appointed a subcommittee consisting of
town staff, Mrs. Justice, Ms. Brown, and Mrs. Kingrey to review and draft a text amendment to
Section 5: Windows and Doors found in the Historic District Design Standards.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer presented the highlighted changes recommended by the
subcommittee for the text amendment to the board and answered the following:
- The changed wording for historic non-contributing structure in the text amendment allowed
the board to have more interpretation for window replacements. If there was a historic
house that had enough changes made to the historic characteristics, it wasn’t deemed
contributing. If it had the original windows, the text amendment would allow the board
and staff to decide if the owner should or shouldn’t keep the original wooden windows.
- The replacement windows verbiage under #7 in the text amendment could be revised to
add 75 years and older after non-contributing structures.
- Local contractors did not always have knowledge of historic resources. The staff works to
encourage residents to have communication with the town or at the state level to make sure
there is not another option for replacing or repairing windows.
- Changing windows was a minor work level for non-contributing and certificate of
appropriateness for contributing in the current UDO. The staff works to encourage
residents to use wood instead of vinyl windows.
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, seconded by Mrs. Kingrey, the text amendment for Section 5:
Windows and Doors was unanimously approved with the change to add the term “75 years and
older” after non-contributing structures in item 7.
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Text Amendment to Section 3: Roofs
At the February 20, 2024, the board made a motion and appointed a subcommittee consisting of
town staff, Mrs. Justice, Ms. Brown, and Mrs. Kingrey to review and draft a text amendment to
Section 3: Roofs found in the Historic District Design Standards.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer presented the highlighted changes made by the
subcommittee for the text amendment to the board.
Brent Tedder, Tedder Exteriors, was requested to explain more detailed options for roofs:
- Holes in roofs were able to be repaired and fixed with patching instead of being replaced.
- Most houses in the district had 1.5-inch rib and 16-inch space panels. Up to 20-inch space
was available.
- Different seam styles would be clipped every foot or a machine style with a 1.5- inch rib
would be snapped on the rib. Either seam would look the same.
- Ridge caps in the district do not look proper. There was a simple solution to vent through
the trim. It would look cleaner, better, and less of an expense.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer answered the following:
- Cedar shake shingles were not referenced in the changes. Cedar shake shingles could have
a separate section in the text amendment. Replacement using cedar shake shingles,
unstained or unpainted, was appropriate if there was documentation which showed cedar
shakes were the original roof material on the house or appropriate for the time era of the
house.
- The new cedar shake shingles section was added between the metal roof and asphalt
shingles sections to clarify them as an option.
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, seconded by Ms. Brown, the text amendment for Section 3: Roofs
was unanimously approved with the change to add a section for cedar shake shingles.
Review of Staff Approvals
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer reviewed the following Staff Approvals:
- 209 Water St – Installed steel pipe to vent fireplaces. Located at the back of the house, not
visible.
- 308 Church St – Installed 20’ x 20’ driveway with wood parameter and filled with rock, 4’
wood picket fence painted white to border the driveway and yard, and wood trashcan
landing.
- 204 Walnut St – Installed brick driveway.
- 204 Church St – Restored windows.
- 209 Main St – Replaced rotten wood on the front porch and paining of both rear doors to
match the front door.
- 119 Water St – Replaced and/or repaired in kind siding, windows, shutters, paint, light
fixtures, porch decking, porch railing, water leaks on porch.
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- 105 Church St – Replaced rotten wood on steps in kind.
Review of Minor Work Approvals
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer reviewed the following Minor Work Approvals:
- 209 Water St – Removed existing rotten front stoop and back deck and construction of
simple steps with railings to enter house.
- 210 Elm St – Replaced rotten wood in kind on pickets, railings, and boards of deck,
replaced picture window on the front of the house, and replaced sliding windows on the
rear and the side of the house.
- 224 Water St – Amended previous minor work application to change wood lattice approval
to brick lattice. (Opinion from the SHPO was a part of this decision.)
Chairman/Board Thoughts/Staff Comments
Ms. Brown recognized Mrs. Kingrey for the efforts on the subcommittees and how she was very
helpful in bringing outside resources to help.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer shared the following:
- The Massing Study amendment was approved by the Board of Commissioners.
- The Local Landmark Designation Workshop was scheduled for May 16, 2024, at 4:00 pm.
There was not an available representative for the Tax Credit Workshop. Tax Credit
workshop would be scheduled later. Flyers for the Local Landmark Designation Workshop
would be mailed.
- On May 17, 2024, Kristi Brantley was presenting a workshop in Beaufort, NC, for their
historic district. It was available for the Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission to
attend. The materials and times would be provided later.
- The budget subcommittee clarified with the Swansboro Finance Director that the board
was able to request money from the Board of Commissioners for the next budget year. The
committee discussed having a budget for events, refreshments for events, mailings (printed
and mailed), an award system (flags with logo), and more training throughout the year.
Quotes had been requested and would be presented later.
Public Comments
Mrs. Amelia Dees-Killette from the Swansboro Historical Association requested the board to
participate in the Homes Tour. They needed volunteers for this event, which was April 27, 2024,
from 10:00 am to 4:00 pm.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 6:40 pm.
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Agenda
Historic Preservation Commission Agenda
Town of Swansboro
Tuesday, March 19, 2024
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes
a. October 17, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes
b. October 30, 2023 Special Meeting Minutes
III. Business
a. Text Amendment to Section 5: Windows and Doors
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
At the February 20, 2024, Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission meeting, the board
made a motion to appoint a subcommittee consisting of town staff, Elaine Justice, Lauren Brown,
and Kim Kingrey to review and draft a text amendment to Section 5: Windows and Doors found
in our Historic District Design Standards.
Recommended Action: Motion to recommend amending Section 5: Windows and Doors in the
Historic Design Standards of the Unified Development Ordinance and forward those recommended
changes to the Planning Board for their review.
b. Text Amendment to Section 3: Roofs
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
At the February 20, 2024, Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission meeting, the board
made a motion to appoint a subcommittee consisting of town staff, Elaine Justice, Lauren Brown,
and Kim Kingrey to review and draft a text amendment to Section: 3 Roofs found in our Historic
District Design Standards.
Recommended Action: Motion to recommend amending Section 3: Roofs in the Historic Design
Standards of the Unified Development Ordinance and forward those recommended changes to the
Planning Board for their review.
c. Minor Work/Staff Approval Application Report: February-MarchPresenter: Rebecca
Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
IV. Chairman/Board Thoughts/Staff Comments
V. Public Comments
VI. Adjournment
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