Public Arts Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingTwentynine Palms, CA · December 20, 2023
Agenda
CITY OF TWENTYNINE PALMS
PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
City Hall
6136 Adobe Road,
Twentynine Palms, CA 92277
www.29palms.org
Wednesday, December 20, 2023
AGENDA
5:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL:
COMMENTS AND REPORTS OF MEETINGS ATTENDED
CONSENT CALENDAR
1 Approval of the PAAC meeting minutes of November 15, 2023 3-5
Public Arts Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting - 15 Nov 2023 - Minutes - Pdf
PUBLIC COMMENTS
This is the time for the public to address the PAAC on any items not on the agenda. Speakers are limited to
three (3) minutes.
2 City Report
BUSINESS
3 Budget Update
4 Confirmation of Workshop29 hires
5 Approval of purchases for Workshop29
6 Confirmation of PAAC Strategic Planning workshop hires
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7 PAAC New Member Appointment
REPORTS, REQUESTS, AND COMMUNICATIONS
8 Workshop29 Committee
9 Strategic Planning Committee
10 Exhibitions and Existing Public Art Committee
11 PAAC PR Committee
12 Murals and Painted Signs Discussion:
1. Perhaps a painted sign that complies with the size requirements of a “normal”
sign, then a “regular” sign permit process would be required
2. A larger sign would require a conditional use permit
3. A mural with a commercial message would require a conditional use permit
4. A mural and/or painted sign that would represent or advertise products or services
that are age-restricted (such as alcohol or tobacco use) would require a City
Council approval.
5. A mural with undeniably no commercial message would not need a review
process
6. A mural that has “blurs the line” with a commercial message would be an
Administrative Use Permit
13 Community Art Grants
FUTURE ITEMS
14 National Park project
Creation of PAAC 29 emails
Basecamp move to Asana early 2024
City Council Tours of Grantees Spaces
Black History Month
ADJOURNMENT:
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Cindy Villescas CMC, City Clerk Time/Date
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Public Arts Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting MINUTES
City Hall, 6136 Adobe Road, Twentynine Palms, CA 92277
www.29palms.org
November 15, 2023
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order 5:00 PM
ROLL CALL:
Kat-Talley Jones
Katie Short
Paul Razeo
Anna Stump
Paul Razeo gets sworn in by City Clerk, Cindy Villegas.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Approval of the PAAC minutes of October 18, 2023
Kat-Talley Jones made a motion to approve the minutes and seconded by Katie Short. 4-0 approved.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Terance Latimer made a public comment wanting to work with the PAAC on future workshops regarding grant writing and
doing an event walk to show public art. He said that it would be a great opportunity to work with the PAAC.
Anna Stump reads into the record an email sent by Anonymous to the PAAC members that was related to the workshop
"Tell Your Story".
Stump mentions that Ryan Heffington has resigned and is excited that Paul Razeo decided to join the PAAC.
2. City Report-NONE
MEMBER COMMENTS AND REPORTS OF MEETINGS ATTENDED
The PAAC members attended the Downtown Business Association meeting and the workshop "Tell Your Story". Stump
mentioned that she had attended the TBID meeting.
BUSINESS
3. Budget Update
Stacy Solie states that the PAAC spent around $20,000 on resources. Solie states that the PAAC has been able to stay in
budget even with items that unexpectedly came up.
Solie has a question about the youth grants and whether the budget was "use it or lose it" policy.
Director Keith Gardner stated that he will investigate this question.
The security guard should be counted as aid, which isn't part of the budget. There needs to be payment for a sound
technician Vadim Kolosov since Solie couldn’t do sound because she wasn't at the workshop.
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4. Confirmation of Workshop29 hires
Short states that they need someone for the childcare workshop. Hiring someone for this is part of the grant money
received. Stump speaks about childcare to help with disabled kids to be able to participate in the workshops and future
events.
Talley-Jones makes a motion to hire someone to help with childcare and seconded by Short. 4-0 approved.
5. Approval of purchases for Workshop29
There were no purchases for discussion.
6. 29! Sculpture recommendation
Stump states that the PAAC received quotes to restore the sculpture. The PAAC states the sculpture needs a plaque and
would it be best to keep the sculpture where it is or move it to another location.
If the sculpture is to be kept at the same location, the PAAC will need to establish a parking lot. Director Gardner presents
the layout for the parking that the City Engineer, Richard Peterson, provided. The City Council will need to approve the
establishment of parking and ADA access. The PAAC members decided that it would be too costly to have a parking lot;
even though it would be better to have the sculpture presented on its own.
The PAAC decided it would be best to move the sculpture to Freedom Plaza.
Talley-Jones made a motion to approve the sculpture to be moved to Freedom Plaza and seconded by Short. 4-0
approved.
7. PAAC workshop with community involvement to consider public art, tourism and community support
Short states that this item is related to long-term planning and says that her and Talley-Jones talked about long-term
planning for the PAAC.
The potential facilitators to be hired on are Monica Mahoney, Sant Khalsa, Marie Bobbin. Short states that it is important
to hire additional facilitators to help with community involvement.
Razeo made a motion to approve that the facilitators be hired to help with the workshops reach the community to gain
more involvement and seconded by Stump. 4-0 approved.
REPORTS, REQUESTS, AND COMMUNICATIONS
8. Workshop29 Committees
Short states that the workshop for "Tell Your Story" was a success. The security guard made sure that everything was
safe for the workshop. Short states that Larry Bowden showed support for the workshop. They had around 16 in
attendance; 25 total for the workshop and this includes even the PAAC members, mentees, and mentors that attended.
Caroline is proud of everyone that participated and making sure that the event turned out positive and safe.
The 2nd part to this workshop will be on December 3rd that will include the same participants.
The workshop "Getting Out the Vote" will be in sometime January and will try to collaborate with the high school choir.
9. TBID website update
Short discusses that the PAAC will continue working with the TBID for future events to update the Visit29 website
calendar.
10. Long-term planning update
Talley-Jones states that there will be more discussion on long-term planning for the PAAC in the next meeting.
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11. Review of potential grants and deadlines
Talley-Jones states that she has no grants to report on but there should be more next month.
12. Visitor Center Gallery update - Groundwork Arts
Stump mentions that everything is moving along.
13. Public Relations update
Solie worked together with Heffington on advertising on social media. Solie mentions that it is difficult to get the word out;
not sure on how get views for the PAAC. It is a working process that will be addressed.
14. Discussion on painted signs, murals and statuaries
Sara Lyon requests to speak in favor for painted signs. Lyon states that it is important to expand on the definitions of what
a mural and a sign is and that the City of Twentynine Palms is stating that it is a city of murals; it should allow murals to be
painted and have painted signs.
Director Gardner agrees that the City wants to allow painted signs and asks the community on how to go about allowing
them. Gardner states that the City can only regulate location, size, materials, and number of signs. The city cannot
regulate the context of the sign.
The PAAC members state that the City should allow painted signs and it will allow the City to grow and thrive. Lyon states
that it will also help potential new business owners to artistically express themselves and their business.
Gardner states that there should be different levels of permitting process and what would that look like.
The PAAC and Lyon states that if there is a permitting process that it is fine, painted signs and murals should be allowed.
15. Preparation workshop for PAAC grants
Latimer presents that Blac Cactus writes grants and can help with the art grants. Latimer's core identity is being a writer
and how that is related to being an artist.
Stump mentions that the public should be involved in and Short mentions that it will be a great opportunity for the mentees
to be able to write grants professionally. The PAAC agrees it is a perfect way to connect with the community and gain
professional experience.
Latimer states that they want to provide the information for free, have people value the content, and make it accessible.
The PAAC states that it would be great to work together; Talley-Jones has been picked to be the liaison for future
communications with Latimer on future events.
FUTURE ITEMS
16. National Park project at Freedom Plaza
Creation of PAAC29 emails
Basecamp move to Asana in 2024
City Council tours of grantee spaces
All items have been tabled.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 6:36 PM
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