Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · June 16, 2022
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
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Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, June 16, 2022 7:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
Roll Call
The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session at 7:30 pm on Thursday, June
16, 2022, in the Vienna Town Hall at 127 Center St. S. Vice-Chair Michael Cheselka,
Linda van Doorn, Patty Hanley, and Paul Layer were present in Council Chambers. Zoning
Administrator Andrea West, and Board Clerk Yaska Camacho Castillo were also present
in Council Chambers.
Vice-Chair Mr. Cheselka called the meeting to order.
Roll Call: Ms. van Doorn, Ms. Hanley, Mr. Layer, Mr.Cheselka were present
Absent: Mr. Baldwin
Approval of minutes
Meeting minutes for May 19, 2022, were accepted as submitted. Meeting minutes for April
21, 2022, were accepted with some clarifications on item #8 and item #10.
Ms. West introduced David Levy, the new Director of Planning and Zoning.
Old Business
374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise Senior Living - Exterior Modification Revision
Item No. 1
Revision to previously approved new construction of a mixed-use building with senior
living and restaurant/café space, located at 374 Maple Ave W, in the MAC Maple Avenue
Commercial district; filed by Jerry Liang, owner.
Rhiannon Schroth & Scott Fleming – 1215 Cameron Street Alexandria, VA 22314 were
present to represent the application.
Ms. Schroth stated they had taken the board's comments into account from last month's
meeting regarding a couple of things- one of them being the material for the exterior
elevation. At the previous meeting, the board voiced their concern with the synthetic
material used on Wade Hampton Drive elevation, which is within arm's reach, and
potentially having someone damage the material. Ms. Schroth said they are proposing a
heavier reinforcing mesh. She stated a standard ASTM E2486 test is used to determine
the different levels of impact resistance. What they are proposing is called an Ultra- High
impact resistance. Ms.van Doorn asked if the two samples provided to the board did not
include the mesh – she asked if they were standard, and the applicant replied correct. Ms.
van Doorn asked if the mesh would be applied over. The applicant said no. Ms. van Doorn
asked how it would be applied. Mr. Fleming stated it would be applied underneath. He noted
the mesh reinforces the different layers deep underneath. He provided more information
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on the different layers and how the mesh is applied. Ms. van Doorn asked if this would
make it appear like synthetic limestone. Mr. Fleming replied yes. The board continued to
discuss the ultra-high impact resistance level, the final finish of limestone, and the colors.
Ms. Hanley made a motion to approve the request for the revision to the previously
approved exterior modification for Sunrise Senior Living located at 374 Maple Ave W,
Docket No. PF- 2320-BAR in the MAC Maple Avenue Commercial zoning district be
approved as presented.
Motion: Ms. Hanley
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Motion Carried 4-0
New Business
110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panels
Item No. 2
Request for approval of Solar Panels, located at 110 Market Sq NW, Docket No.
PF-773555-BAR, in the MAC, Maple Avenue Commercial zoning district, filed by
Anthony Colella, EDGE Energy, project contact.
Jodi Soler, Edge Energy- 7904 Foxhound Rd McLean, VA – was the representative for the
application.
Mr. Solar stated he is proposing the installation of solar panels on a flat roof. Ms. Hanley
asked if the roof structure had to be modified. The applicant said they had to modify the
roof by attaching it directly to the roof. Ms. Hanley then asked how it would be hooked up to
the electrical panel. Mr. Soler replied with a wire that goes from the roof down to the back
of the house. Ms. Hanley asked if it was the exterior of the house. Mr. Solar replied yes; he
stated the builder made no provisions to allow running a wire from the roof to the garage
where the electrical panel is located. Ms. Hanley asked where exactly on the exterior of the
building are the wires coming down from and if there is a conduit it's encased in. Mr.
Soler replied yes, it is a mega conduit. Ms. Hanley inquired about the colors. The applicant
answered that the colors are typically galvanized, black, or white, the standard colors. He
stated they would paint the conduit if required a different color. Ms. Hanley once again
asked where in the exterior is it located. Mr. Soler answered there is no exact location on
where it goes; they try to install it where it will be hidden from view as much as possible
(i.e., corner of the building). Ms. Hanley asked Ms. West if there were documents showing
it would be on the driveway side. Ms. West stated she was not aware. Ms. Hanley asked if it
could be added to the motion, and Ms. West said it could be added as a condition to the
motion, and they can check the document for that specific detail.
Mr. Layer asked if the conduits were metal. Mr. Soler replied correct. Mr. Layer inquired
about the colors. He asked what the finish is and what is the coating system for the black
color. The applicant confirmed it was factory paint. Mr. Layer asked the applicant if he had
used the color black before, to which the applicant replied they use it all the time. Mr.
Layer asked if the black color has the same longevity as the galvanized. The applicant
stated it is galvanized. It is painted on top. Mr. Layer asked how it is fastened, and
Mr.Soler replied with standard galvanized clips that can easily be painted black. Mr. Layer
recommended the clips remain the same color because having galvanized on black will
stand out.
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Furthermore, he asked about roof repairs and panels. Mr. Soler stated there is no plan to
place walking pads on the roof. There is no maintenance to the solar panels except
replacing them 40 years from now. If something happens underneath the roof, you remove
the panel and repair the roof. They discussed the roof membrane and slope. Mr. Cheselka
asked about the paint. He addressed the importance of priming galvanized paint.
Ms. Hanley inquired about rooftop decks. She asked staff for clarification on this
particular unit having a rooftop deck. Ms. West stated this was a unit with a flat roof
without a deck. They continued to review the information, and Ms. West clarified there is a
terrace on the third floor, but she didn’t see on the documents how the conduit would go
around that space. The board discussed how they could word the motion
Ms. van Doorn made a motion to approve the request for approval of Solar Panels, located at
110 Market Sq NW, Docket No. PF-773555-BAR, in the MAC, Maple Avenue Commercial
zoning district with the following provision:
• The conduits should be factory-finished powder-coated black galvanized material.
• The conduit should be installed in a way to be least visible, i.e., in the corners and along
the top portion of the terrace, and not on the floor and continued vertically in the least
observable manner.
Motion: Ms. van Doorn
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes:4
Nays: 0
Motion Carried 4-0
438 Maple Ave E - Long and Foster - Sign
Item No. 3
Request for approval of new sign, located at 438 Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-758995-BAR,
in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning district, filed by Gary Brent, MG Permit LLC.,
project contact.
Gary Brent, MG permits - 19187 Foggy Bottom Rd. Bluemont, VA 20135 - was the
representative for the application.
Mr. Brent described the project. He stated an existing cabinet runs throughout the
storefront length, and the plan is to reface and retrofit the lighting (LEDs) with the
existing cabinet. The style out faces is a routed aluminum 0.080 with routed out lettering
back with 316 acrylic. The lettering on the acrylic is perforated black vinyl. The daytime
view will display black lettering, and the nighttime view will display white lettering. The
LED modules are planned to be within the Towns limitation of 3500 kelvins and 150
lumens.
Ms. Hanley asked for clarification on the current color of the sign. She asked Ms.West if
the existing sign was from a previous exterior modification because the color was green
when she last drove by it, and currently, it shows as white. Ms. West stated the facade came
before the board for modifications, including changing the sign band's color. She said this
application is to make the sign band white. Mr. Brent stated he drove by before the
meeting, and the previous tenant's name, who is no longer there, flipped their sign over,
which may be the color green Ms. Hanley saw. Ms. Hanley asked the applicant if the entire
panel would be white. She commented she wanted to make sure everything matched. The
applicant replied yes.
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Mr. Layer wanted some clarification on the day and night view. He asked Mr. Brent if the
letters would be black and the background would be white during the daytime. Additionally,
he asked if the letters would glow white and if the background would be black during the
nighttime. The applicant replied the background would be opaque routed aluminum. There
is no light coming through except for the letter area. They continued to discuss the topic.
Mr. Layer asked about the color of the building. Mr. Brent stated he wasn’t sure since it
was not part of his application. Mr. Layer reviewed the color sample provided for the panel.
He noted the sample color was not called bright white. Mr. Brent stated it is white acrylic.
It would be for the lettering, which will then be covered in perforated black vinyl. The board
discussed the proposed colors, the rendering, and prior modifications. Mr. Cheselka
wanted clarification on the color for the rendering presented to the board. Mr. Brent stated
he believes he/they forgot a sample. He explained that the border around the fascia is
Sherwin Williams 7105 paperwhite and that the color they were looking at was beige. The
board continued to discuss the missing color sample, the sample provided, and the fascia
material (aluminum). The board discussed the importance of having the proposed color
sample present. Mr. Lawyer stated the rendering won't be 100% accurate, but the
samples will. The best way to see a pallet of colors is in a sample. Mr. Cheselka asked Ms.
West if there was any other way they could see the missing sample (new color) without
having the applicant return next month. Ms. West responded any color decision has to be
made in a meeting. The board continued to discuss the colors. Mr. Brent asked if he could
bring in more than one sample if he needed to return to the board. Mr. Cheselka stated
they needed to see the exact color because the building is located on the main street. They
continued to discuss the importance of knowing what color/material would be used. Mr.
Layer stated he would drive down to the building with the samples to see what is in place to
understand better what is being proposed; due to the mismatch between the rendering and
what they were shown, the questions have multiplied, which has caused some confusion.
Mr. Layer made a motion to differ the request for approval of a new sign located at 438
Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-758995-BAR, in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning district,
filed by Gary Brent, MG Permit LLC, until the board receives the following samples:
• Paint color SW7105
• Paint color immediately above SW7105
• Paint color immediately below SW7105
Motion: Mr. Layer
Second: Ms. van Doorn
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Motion Carried 4-0
434 Maple Ave E - Diane T. Salon - Sign
Item No. 4
Request for approval of new sign, located at 434 Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-759099-BAR,
in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning district, filed by Gary Brent, MG Permit LLC.,
project contact.
Gary Brent, MG permits - 19187 Foggy Bottom Rd. Bluemont, VA 20135 - was the
representative for the application.
This application was deferred with item 3.
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Ms. Hanley made a motion to defer the request for approval of a new sign located at 434
Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-759099-BAR, in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning district,
filed by Gary Brent, MG Permit LLC., while the Sherwin William samples are provided.
Motion: Ms. Hanley
Second: Ms. van Doorn
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Motion Carried 4-0
527 Maple Ave E - VHC Health Physicians - Sign
Item No. 5
Request for approval of new sign, for VHC Virginia Hospital Center Physicians, located at
527 Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-777647-BAR, in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning
district, filed by Gary Brent, MG Permit LLC., project contact.
Gary Brent, MG permits - 19187 Foggy Bottom Rd. Bluemont, VA 20135 - was the
representative for the application.
Mr. Brent stated the building is multi-tenant, and they are proposing an internally
illuminated channel letter sign with LED lighting within the limitations of the town of
3500 kelvins and 150 lumens- that will be attached to the second floor for VHC physicians.
The sign is designed to be attached to an aluminum raceway, similar to the other signs in
the plaza, and the measurement is 31.9 sq ft which will cause the total sq ft of all the tenant
signs to be 136.9, which is roughly a dozen sq ft under what they are allowed as a building.
Ms. van Doorn asked if the green color was part of the business branding. Mr. Brent said
it is part of the corporate image/color. He confirmed that is what he uses consistently for
the company.
Ms. Hanley commented she likes the sign on that building because it’s not as cluttered as
some of the other signs; it’s very classy and legible.
Mr. Layer referenced the history of the building since it has a lot of signs and stated that
at one point, it was divided so that each tenant had a slot along the front. He asked if what is
remaining blank now is what is available. Mr. Brent answered he thinks so. Mr. Layer
said he asked that question because if there is no future sign for the blank slot, then the
placement for this sign seems odd. Mr. Brent stated he wasn’t sure if there is a sign for
the empty slot.
Mr. Cheselka said he likes the sign and believes the color green adds some pazzaz to it. It
goes with the blue and white across the building and coordinates with the WDG sign.
Ms. van Doorn made a motion to approve the request for approval of a new sign, for VHC
Virginia Hospital Center Physicians, located at 527 Maple Ave E, Docket No.
PF-777647-BAR, in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning district.
Motion: Ms. van Doorn
Second: Ms. Hanley
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Motion Carried 4-0
252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Signs
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Item No. 6
Request for approval of updated signs for Shell Gas, located at 252 Maple Ave W, Docket
No. PF-777680-BAR, in the C-1A, Special Commercial zoning district, filed by Gary
Brent, MG Permit LLC., project contact.
Gary Brent, MG permits - 19187 Foggy Bottom Rd. Bluemont, VA 20135 - was the
representative for the application.
Mr. Brent stated they are proposing two signs for this application. The freestanding
identification sign will be replaced on the existing steel support poles with the existing
concrete footing. The sign height is to remain the same. The sign is internally
illuminated, and the white area is aluminum routed out opaque to give a nighttime view.
The internal illumination has LED’s within the Town limitations of 3500 kelvins and 126
lumens per side as per the manufacturer's specification.
Additionally, the replacement of the food mart sign. The sign is internally illuminated
channel letters which are similar to the ones currently there. This sign is designed to be
placed at the center of the wall. The LED’s have 3500 kelvins and 150 lumens. Mr. Layer
asked what size are the letters. Mr. Brent stated it is 18 inc letter height. Mr. Cheselka
asked the applicant if he would use light bulbs on the letters, and the applicant replied yes.
Ms. van Doorn made a motion to approve the request for approval of updated signs for Shell
Gas, located at 252 Maple Ave W, Docket No. PF-777680-BAR, in the C-1A, Special
Commercial zoning district.
Motion: Ms. van Doorn
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Motion Carried
126 Branch Rd SE - Massage Envy - Sign
Item No. 7
Request for approval of a new sign for Massage Envy, located at 126 Branch Rd SE, Docket
No. PF-750619-BAR, in the C-2, General Commercial zoning district, filed by Kath
Baker, Concept Unlimited Inc., project contact.
Matthew Higgins- 10020 Farrow Road Columbia, SC 29203- was the representative for
the application.
Mr. Higgins stated massage envy is being replaced with new branding. The colors are
being matched; the depth of the channel letters, white faces, black trim, black returns, and
the raceway colors will match the façade color. The LED channel letters are 3000 kelvins.
Mr. Layer commented it reads better in terms of clarity. Ms. van Doorn asked if the
lumens were 107 and the applicant said yes. Mr. Cheselka commented it was simple but
effective.
Mr. Layer made a motion to approve the request for approval of a new sign for Massage
Envy, located at 126 Branch Rd SE, Docket No. PF-750619-BAR, in the C-2, General
Commercial zoning district, filed by Kath Baker, Concept Unlimited Inc., as submitted.
Motion: Mr. Layer
Second: Ms. Hanley
Ayes: 4
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Nays: 0
Motion Carried 4-0
Meeting Adjournment
The board discussed the following:
Mr. Cheselka stated that he has noticed a consistency in the past few meetings with the
applicants submitting the correct range for lumens and kelvins. Ms. West said she has
explained to applicants who have submitted with a higher range for lumens and kelvins
that the board prefers to have them within a specific range. She stated some applicants
modify the application, and others leave the lumens and kelvins as requested to explain why
to the board. Ms. West mentioned it is up to the applicant to decide since it is not a zoning
code requirement. The board continued to discuss the topic. The board also commented and
discussed codifying the range for kelvins and lumens.
Mr. Layer made a motion to adjourn. Ms. Hanley seconded the motion. The meeting
adjourned at 9:08 pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Yaska Camacho Castillo
Board Clerk
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Agenda
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
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Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, June 16, 2022 7:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
Roll Call
Approval of minutes
Old Business
BAR22-327 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise Senior Living - Exterior Modification Revision
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-23-20-BAR_374 Maple Ave W_Sunrise Senior Living_v2
02 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Revion Memo
03 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Application and Authorization
04 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - EIFSandCanamould Locations
05 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - DG_5600M_StoTherm ci Mineral_EN
06 -374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - EIFSandCanamouldInstallationExamples
New Business
BAR22-328 110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panels
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-773555-BAR - 110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panels
02 - 110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panle - Application & Authorization
03 - 110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panel - Plans
04 - 110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panel - Datasheet M Series - AC Modules
05- 110 Market Sq NW - Solar Panel - Property Pictures
BAR22-329 438 Maple Ave E - Long and Foster - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-758995-BAR - 438 Maple Ave E - Long and Foster - Sign
02 - 438 Maple Ave E - Long & Foster - Sign Application & Authorization
03 - 438 Maple Ave E - Long & Foster - Sign Rendering
BAR22-330 434 Maple Ave E - Diane T. Salon - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-75099-BAR - 434 Maple Ave E - Diane T. Salon - Sign
02 - 434 Maple Ave E - Diane T. Salon - Application & Authorization
03 - 434 Maple Ave E - Diane T. Salon - Sign Rendering
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BAR22-331 527 Maple Ave E - VHC Health Physicians - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-758995-BAR - 527 Mpale Ave E - VHC Virginia Hospital Center Physicians_Sign
02 - 527 Maple Ave E - VHC Virginia Hospital Center_Application & Authorization
03 - 527 Maple Ave E - VHC Virginia Hospital Center _Sign Rendering
BAR22-332 252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Signs
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-777680-BAR - 252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Sign v2.1
02 - 252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Application & Authorization
03 - 252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Free Standing Sign
04 - 252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Wall Sign
05 - 252 Maple Ave W - Shell Gas Station - Site Plan
BAR22-333 126 Branch Rd SE - Massage Envy - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-750619-BAR - 126 Branch Rd SE - Massage Envy - Sign
02 - 126 Branch Rd SE - Massage Envy - Application & Authorization
03 - 126 Branch Rd SE - Massgae Envy - Sign
Meeting Adjournment
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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