Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · September 15, 2022
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
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Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
Roll Call
The Board of Architectural Review met in a regular session on Thursday, September 15,
2022, at 7:30 pm in the Vienna Town Hall at 127 Center St. S Council Chambers.
Chair Mr. Baldwin called the meeting to order at 7:30 pm.
Roll Call: Mr. Layer, Ms. van Doorn, Ms. Hanley, Mr.Cheselka, and Mr. Baldwin were all
present.
Staff present: Planner Sharmaine Abaied and Board Clerk Yaska Camacho Castillo
Approval of the Minutes
The meeting minutes for August 18, 2022, were accepted as submitted.
Old Business
DermUtopia- 527 Maple Ave E - Signs
Item No. 1: Request for approval of a sign for DermUtopia, located at 527 Maple Ave E,
Docket No. PF-823053-BAR, in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning district, filed by Ruth
Vanlandingham, SMI Sign Systems., project contact.
Ruth Vanlandingham & Dr. Brenda Dintiman – SMI Sign Systems- 3903 Cornell Place
Fredericks, MD 21703 were present for the application.
Ms. van Doorn asked Ms. Vanlandingham to clarify what she was proposing as the new
changes. Ms. Vanlandingham explained that the lime green and pink colors were
disapproved at the last Board of Architectural Meeting, and she was asked to return with
colors that were more in line with the other signs on the building. She stated they are
matching the colors of the building with the blue colors they’re proposing.
Dr. Dintiman, the owner of DermUtopia, stated her business has been in practice for over
ten (10) years with her logo. She mentioned that the VHS physicians logo, another sign on
the building, has bright green and white. She wondered how did that sign blend with the
building. She said she understood that the board might not be interested in the color green
with pink on her logo; however, she noted it has been her logo since 2012, and the color
green is very in keeping with the new medicine. The board discussed the difference
between the VHS physician sign and the applicant’s first proposed sign. Mr. Layer
clarified that the board did not ask for her sign to match the building; they asked for the
sign to be compatible with the rest of the signs on the building. He noted how her sign was
all green and pink, and the VHS physician sign used the first three (3) capitalized letters
as an accent with the green. They continued to discuss the differences between the signs
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and the option she has to add more colors to her logo if she wished.
Dr. Dintiman asked if the VHS physician's sign was installed without the board's approval.
Ms. Hanley clarified that the board indeed approved the sign. She stated the board felt the
sign harmonized with the building. Dr. Dintiman commented she was under the
impression that green was not allowed and they had to use blues, which is not in keeping
with her logo. Mr.Baldwin responded to the applicant that she needs to feel satisfied with
her sign and that she could consult with a different designer or add more color to her logo
if she wished. Ms. Hanley asked Ms.Abaied if the board approved the proposed sign can the
applicant return to the next meeting if she decided she wanted to do the sign differently.
Ms. Abaied replied that the applicant could submit a revision and return to the board for a
sign modification.
Dr. Dintiman once again asked if the VHS physicians sign was approved by the board and
asked if there was a record of the approval. Staff replied yes. The discussion on the sign
continued. Mr. Cheselka commented that he was the only one who was “ok” with the
existing sign on the previous meeting. However, he noted how the new proposed sign is
better. Dr. Dintiman replied that as long as the VHS physician sign went through the same
process, she would be fine with it, and the board confirmed it did.
Ms. van Doorn made a motion to approve the request for a sign for DermUtopia, located at
527 Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-823053-BAR, in the C-1, Local Commercial zoning
district.
Motion: Ms. van Doorn
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
Glyndon Park - 300 Glyndon St NE - Exterior Modification
Item No. 2: Request for approval of exterior modifications for Glyndon Park Bathrooms,
located at 300 Glyndon St NE, Docket No. PF-804263-BAR, in the RS-16/PR, Residential
and Park and Recreational zoning district, filed by Leslie Herman, Director of Parks and
Recreation, project contact
Leslie Herman and Tommy Staats – 120 Cherry St Vienna Community Center – were
present for the application.
Ms. Herman stated they came before the board a month ago for the exterior modification to
the Glyndon Park bathroom, in which one of the soffit systems was not identified. She
stated the staff report provided details on the wood soffit system using the coravent S-400
strip vent. She said after a discussion with town staff regarding maintenance issues and
damage done by carpenter bees in the Town due to wood materials, she decided it was in the
Town's best interest to use materials with greater longevity that require less
maintenance. She is proposing to use the vintage PVC versatex soffit system.
Mr. Staat described the system as a plastic PVC tongue and groove by 6 that would cover
the entire soffit. Mr. Layer referenced section A101- he asked Mr. Staat if he would be
reproducing that section in PVC to which Mr. Staat replied correct.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the request for exterior modifications for Glyndon
Park Bathrooms, located at 300 Glyndon St NE, Docket No. PF-804263-BAR, in the
RS-16/PR, Residential and Park and Recreational zoning district, as presented.
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Motion: Mr. Cheselka
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
Ms. Herman said they would return to the Board of Architectural Review in October for a
revision on the roof material to Glyndon. She stated they would propose Everlast metals
DL100 double locking architectural steam roof instead of the hip slate roof.
Water Field - 300 Center St S - Exterior Modification
Item No. 3: Request for approval of exterior modifications for Waters Field, located at 300
Center St S., Docket No. PF-830990-BAR, in the PR, Park and Recreational zoning
district, filed by Brandy Wyatt, Dept. of Parks and Recreation, project contact, on behalf of
Paul Scott, Fairfax County Public Schools.
Brandy Wyatt – 120 Cherry St SE - Town of Vienna Parks & Recreation – was present
for the application.
Ms. Wyatt stated they would be installing new roll-up doors in the current windows at the
concession stand and the roll-up door in the press box. She noted they would be using steel
and powder-coated color grey RAL 7046.
Mr. Cheselka commented it seemed impenetrable. Ms. Hanley asked how it would be
installed. Ms. Wyatt responded it would be installed inside the door so the mechanism
would face the inside of the building. Mr. Layer pointed out that page 7 of the brochure
showed all the details. He stated this was a standard installation. He recommended the
applicant go with the face-mounted option shown on the brochure. The board continued to
discuss the installation method. Ms. Wyatt noted that they would be using model 650.
Mr. Layer wondered about the material and asked the applicant if she considered
aluminum. Ms. Wyatt responded Bay Ruth and VYI were funding the project, and the Town
gave a recommendation, and together they decided to go with steel. Mr. Layer asked the
applicant, upon installation of the soffit system, that they ensure it is appropriately
attached to the substrate and sealed properly inside and out. They continued to discuss the
mounting process. Ms. van Doorn asked for clarification on the box. Ms. Wyatt clarified
that the box structure would be on the inside of the building, not on the exterior of the
building.
Mr. Layer made a motion to approve the request for exterior modifications for Waters
Field, located at 300 Center St S., Docket No. PF-830990-BAR, in the PR, Park and
Recreational zoning district, filed by Brandy Wyatt, with the following stipulation:
• The mounting of the box be face-of-wall mounting.
Motion: Mr. Layer
Second: Mr. Cheselka
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
New Business
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Fosters Grille - 138-A Maple Ave W - Exterior Modification
Item No. 4: Request for approval of exterior modifications for Fosters Grille, located at
138-A Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-817862-BAR, in the C-2, General Commercial
zoning district, filed by Michael Cerny, business owner.
Michael Cerny- President of Fosters Grille – 138-A Maple Ave W- present for the
application.
Mr. Cerny stated they currently have (2) two tables and (4) four chairs for outdoor seating
in front of the restaurant, and (2) two tables with (2) two umbrellas and (8) eight chairs on
the side of the restaurant. He said they are looking for permanent and seasonal outdoor
seating approval. The seasonal outdoor seating would be for the (3) three parking spaces
that are currently in use by (5) five tables, (5) five umbrellas, and (20) twenty chairs. Mr.
Cerny wanted the board to know that due to covid, he would have shut down the restaurant
if it wasn’t for the granting of outdoor seating. He commented on being astonished at how
much this particular location continues to be thriven by outdoor dining, pick-up, or
delivery vs. seating inside.
Ms. Hanley commented on the temporary outdoor seating. She voiced her concern about
the parking space near the other building where most traffic occurs. She wondered if they
could place a cement bollard at the corner to protect the pedestrians. Mr. Cerny responded
he wasn’t sure how to handle the request since everything would have to be removed from
the parking spaces at the end of the seasonal year (October 31, 2022). He stated he would
rather not make the expense since he would permanently remove everything on the
parking spaces unless the landlord changes his mind. Ms. Hanley replied that she would
like that to be in place for next year if they decide on temporary outdoor seating. She asked
staff if there was a way to keep track of that. Ms. Abaied confirmed that the applicant needs
to apply yearly for the permit, and upon their submittal, they would be reminded of the
board's recommendation on the bollards. They continued to discuss the matter.
Mr. Baldwin asked the applicant if they were indeed using the mainstays Albany lane
6-piece folding seating set in red as shown on the presentation, and the applicant
responded correct. Ms. van Doorn asked if the outdoor seating was 60- 75 ft away from the
residential properties behind the restaurant, to which the applicant replied yes. The
applicant noted they stop seating at 9 pm and do not have any music playing outside. Ms.
van Doorn then asked to see a picture of the wall. The staff provided an image. Ms. Hanley
asked if the applicant was required to get the walls approved, and Ms. Abaied responded
since it is part of the seasonal outdoor dining, it would have to be reviewed by the board.
Ms. Hanley asked if they could approve the furniture permanently and put a timeline for
the walls. Ms. Abaied said the board could apply any conditions they would like.
Mr. Cheselka voiced concerns about the parking spaces used for outdoor seating and the
danger it imposes. He stated that if they are allowed to continue the outdoor seating in the
parking spaces, the other nearby restaurants will have the right to do the same.
Furthermore, he does not understand why the business wants to take public parking,
which belongs to the public, and turn it into their business. Mr. Layer pointed out that
parking is not the board's purview. Mr. Cheselka said he would like to be guaranteed that
there would be some kind of support system, such as bollards or planters for pedestrian
safety.
Ms. Abaied explained that during Covid Town Council passed an ordinance to allow outdoor
seating for restaurants, which was extended to (6) six months. Also, Early this year, they
passed an ordinance for permanent seating with a parking allowance and seasonal outdoor
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seating for restaurants. The applicants need to get approval for seasonal seating from the
Board of Architectural Review, which is why Mr. Cerny is present, although it is only 60
(sixty) days left for the seasonal seating. The permanent request would be for (2) two tables
with (4) four seats and (2) two tables with (2) two seats underneath the canopy on the
sidewalk. The board continued to discuss the temporary outdoor seating.
Ms. Hanley made a motion to approve the request for exterior modifications for Fosters
Grille, located at 138-A Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-817862-BAR, in the C-2, General
Commercial zoning district, for the permanent tables, chairs, and umbrellas be approved
as submitted.
Motion: Ms. Hanley
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
Ms. Hanley made a second motion to approve the request for exterior modifications for
Fosters Grille, located at 138-A Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-817862-BAR, in the C-2,
General Commercial zoning district, for the temporary dining barriers and temporary
seating for the next 60 days.
Motion: Ms. Hanley
Second: Mr. Layer
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
Restore- 214 Maple Ave W - Exterior Modification
Item No. 5: Request for approval of signs & exterior modifications for Restore, located at
214 Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-827475-BAR, in the C-1A, Special Commercial zoning
district, filed by Tony Rogers of Ark Signs, Project Contact.
Dan Kiser – 214 Maple Ave – was present for the application.
Mr. Kaiser gave a brief description of the request. He stated the sign measured 127 sq ft. It
is aluminum lettering with Pantone blue coloring for the background with 150 lumen
level. He also mentioned the monument having no lights.
Ms. Hanley wondered what the rectangular box on the pylon sign was for. Mr. Kiser
responded he wasn’t sure. Ms. van Doorn asked if the location was the old HSPC building,
to which the applicant replied he believed so. Ms. van Doorn commented the board had
already approved the window changes. She voiced her concern about the rectangular box on
the pylon. After some research, it appeared the rectangular box was there before, and they
were resuing it.
Ms. van Doorn stated she likes the color combination. Mr. Layer asked for clarification on
the alternate color. The applicant said there is no alternate color; Patone blue would be the
color.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the request for approval of signs & exterior
modifications for Restore, located at 214 Maple Ave W., Docket No PF-827475-BAR, in
the C-1A, Special Commercial zoning district, as presented.
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Motion: Mr. Cheselka
Second: Ms. Hanley
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
Sunrise - 374 Maple Ave W - Mural
Item No. 6: Request for approval of a Mural for Sunrise Senior Living, located at 374
Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-844263-BAR, in the MAC, Maple Avenue Commercial
zoning district, filed by Rhiannon Schroth from Rust Orlin Architecture, project contact,
on behalf of Hilary Suskey, Sunrise Senior Living.
Rhiannon Schroth & Scott Fleming – 1215 Cameron Street Alexandria, VA - were
present for the application.
Ms. Schroth stated Sunrise Senior Living reached out to the Virginia Art Society to
review the portfolio of several artists. They decided on artist Chad Brady. Ms. Schroth
described Mr. Brady’s proposed artwork as contemplative and organic. She noted that the
locations for the artwork would be a mural and two (2) benches. The artist has two (2)
options he would like the board to review for the mural. The first option for the mural has a
background, and the second option does not. Also, the benches are located on the corner of
Maple and Wade Hampton for residents and community members to enjoy. They have
identified a hummingbird and a hawk as the artwork for the benches. Ms. Hanley noted
that Wade Hampton has been renamed, Liberty Lane.
Mr. Layer inquired about the mural with background, without background, and the studies
provided with the application. He was confused as to why the studies were part of the
application. Ms. Schroth clarified the studies were provided to show the process they went
through to get to the final images. Mr. Layer asked the applicants if they had a preference,
to which they responded they preferred the mural with a background.
Ms. Hanley commented the artist’s presentation was professionally done and that she
would like staff to use this as an example for future similar proposals. She also
recommended placing the bench with the hawk toward Madison High School since that is
the school’s mascot or possibly having it face road 123 so that more people can see it.
Ms. van Doorn asked the applicants if they had a preference for the benches. Ms. Schroth
replied she preferred option B. The board discussed the different bench options.
Mr. Layer made a motion for the request of a Mural for Sunrise Senior Living, located at
374 Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-844263-BAR, in the MAC, Maple Avenue Commercial
zoning district filed by Rhiannon Schroth from Rust Orlin Architecture, project contact,
on behalf of Hilary Suskey, Sunrise Senior Living to be approved as follow:
• Mural with a background
Motion: Mr. Layer
Second: Ms. van Doorn
Ayes 5
Nays 0
Motion Carried 5-0
Ms. van Doorn made a motion to approve the bench selection proposed by Sunrise Senior
Living, located at 374 Maple Ave W., Docket No. PF-844263-BAR, with the provision that
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selection B is the bench with the artwork as proposed.
Motion: Ms. van Doorn
Second: Ms. Hanley
Ayes: Ms. van Doorn, Ms. Hanley, Mr. Cheselka, Mr. Baldwin
Nays: Mr. Layer
Motion Carried 4-1
Regular Meeting
The Board discussed the following:
• Parliamentarian training
• Parking Purview
Meeting Adjournment
Ms. Hanley made a motion to adjourn, and Ms. van Doorn seconded the motion. The
meeting adjourned at 9:04 pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Yaska Camacho Castillo
Board Clerk
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Agenda
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
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Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
Roll Call
Approval of the Minutes
Old Business
BAR22-353 DermUtopia- 527 Maple Ave E - Signs
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-823053-BAR - 527 Maple Ave E -DermUtopia
02 - 527 Maple Ave E - DermUtopia - Applicatin and Authorization
03 - 527 Maple Ave E - DermUtopia - Sign Details Rev.
04 - 527 Maple Ave E - DermUtopia - Sign Elevation Rev.
05 - 527 Maple Ave E - DermUtopia - Surrounding Photos
BAR22-354 Glyndon Park - 300 Glyndon St NE - Exterior Modification
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-80426-BAR - 300 Glyndon St NE - Glyndon Park v2
02 - 300 Glydnon St NE - Glyndon Park - Application and Authroization
03 - 300 Glyndon St NE - Glyndon Park - S-400 Soffit Strip Vent Spec Sheet
04 - 300 Glyndon St NE - Glyndon Park - Vent Diagram
05 - 300 Glynd St NE - Glyndon Park - Soffit rednering
06 - 300 Glyndon St NE - Glyndon Park Revised 09_13_22_Glyndon Street Snack Bar Elevaton
BAR22-355 Water Field - 300 Center St S - Exterior Modification
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-804263-BAR - 300 Center St S. - Waters Field
02 - 300 Center St S. - Waters Field - Application and Authorizaiton
03 - 300 Center St S. - Waters Field - Diagrams and Dimensions
04 - 300 Center St S. - Waters Field - Brochure
05 - 300 Center St S. - Waters Field - Overhead Door Proposal
06 - 300 Cetner St S. - Waters Field - Rollup Color
07 - 300 Center St S. - Waters Field - Site Photos
New Business
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BAR22-356 Fosters Grille - 138-A Maple Ave W - Exterior Modification
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-817862-BAR - 138-A Maple Ave W. - Fosters Grillev v2
02 - 138-A Maple Ave W - Fosters Grille - Application and Authorization
03- 138-A Maple Ave W - Fosters Grille - Site Plan
04 -138-A Maple Ave W - Fosters Grille - Site Photos
05 -138- A Maple Ave W - Fosters Grille - Tables and Chair Specs
06 - Ordinance No. 004-2022 - Outdoor Dining
BAR22-357 Restore- 214 Maple Ave W - Exterior Modification
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-827475-BAR - 214 Maple Ave W - Restore
02- 214 Maple Ave W - Restore - Application and Authorization
03 - 214 Maple Ave W - Restore - Renderings
04 - 214 Maple Ave W - BAR 46-13 Vienna Shopping Center - Approved Board Photos
BAR22-358 Sunrise - 374 Maple Ave W - Mural
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-844263-BAR - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise
02 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Application and Authorization
03 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Narrative and Artist Information
04 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Art Concepts
05 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise Overall art design inspiration
06 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise -Mural and Bench paint colors
07 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Mural study
08 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Final Mural Design and colors
09 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Bench study
10 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Site plan and perspective showing benches
11 - 374 Mpale Ave W - Sunrise - Humming Bird Bench 1 Final -with paint color and identification
12 - 374 Maple Ave We - Sunrise - Hawk Bench 2 Final with colors and identification
13 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Previously approved bench with revision narrative
14 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Bench options B, C, D
15- 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise - Ext. perspectives - ext. improvements
16 - 374 Maple Ave W - Sunrise Bldg Elev - Ext Improvements
Regular Meeting
Meeting Adjournment
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THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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