Police Community Engagement Board
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · June 22, 2021
Minutes
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Meeting Title
6/22/2021 631
Meeting called by Cindy Neu
Type of meeting PCEB
Facilitator Cindy Neu
Note taker Erin Klippi
Timekeeper Erin Klippi
Attendees Cindy Neu
Dr. Scott Groesch
Angela Brooks
Kevin Sombart
Mayor Gerry Welch
Chief Dale Curtis
Rev. Eric Hayes
Agenda Item 3
Review and Approval of May 2021 Minutes
Discussion
Conclusions Motion by Dr. Scott Groesch
Second by Katy Miller
All – With Correction
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Send to Website Erin Klippi Next
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Agenda Item 4
Review and discussion of the calls based on areas within
the community-Chief Curtis
Discussion Chief Curtis presented a short power point providing
information regarding calls for service. COJIS mapping and
police patrol area mapping was reviewed, showing crime
relative to each area of Webster Groves.
Kevin S. inquired if crime was higher near Interstate 44
Chief Curtis indicated that crime is spread fairly evenly
throughout the City.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
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None at this time
Agenda Item 5
Review and discussion of suggested revisions to the
Ordinance by the Alliance for
Interracial Dignity--Katy and Kevin
Discussion Katy Miller and Kevin Sombart reviewed the proposed
revisions to the current charter drafted by the Alliance for
Interracial Dignity (no copy provided for minutes). Discussion
regarding the document included but was not limited to the
following.
Katy reviewed the Alliance’s proposal including refocusing
the board to be based upon Racial Equity and Inclusion, not
the current community outreach model, and the suggestion
that the Board be able to review police related incidents.
Kevin Sombart referenced some concerns in the following
areas that include but are not limited to
“section 4.12b” using the term “insure” leads to the
perception of setting policy not just advising.
Katy inquired about the process of having the charter
language updated, and was advised that it would be up to
City Council to address potential changes to the Charter.
Kevin would like to know how section 2 regarding board
member selection will be implemented and what parameters
would be used to do so.
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Angela suggested that the City Council would have to look
for people with specific backgrounds to serve on the board.
Cindy commented that it is possible not all people would be
qualified to serve on the PCEB and that the PCEB should
consist of those that are “woke” regarding racial equity and
that questions regarding this should be part of the
interviewing process. Mayor Gerry Welch advised the board
that the interviews and selection to the board are done by
City Council, not the PCEB members.
Kevin suggested that the use of the word “shall” creates a
requirement that may not be able to be fulfilled.
The Ex-officio provision in section 10 “at the invitation and
the discretion of the board” was questioned by Kevin S., Dr.
Scott Groesch, and Mayor Gerry Welch. The disassociation
of a board from the City and the consequences as such were
reviewed. Comments included the purpose of the board
being engagement with the WGPD and citizens and
excluding the WGPD would not be in line with the intent and
purpose of the board.
It was suggested that Section 11 “Citizen Only” can create
Mo. Sunshine Violations
The suggestion was also made that the age of the youth
liaison be either reduced to 16, or that the liaison be a
University student.
Kevin commented that some of the suggestions have been
overly specific and unnecessary. The suggestion was also
made that the recommended revisions, as worded, again
give the suggestion of a policy board not an advisory board.
It was advised that the language of the ordinance should not
mandate but only allow certain functions.
Cindy and Kevin agreed that a mission and vision statement
be created.
Dr. Groesch suggested a Google Doc be created for
comments by the board.
Conclusions
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Unclear if any at this time.
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Agenda Item 6
Review and discussion of data from the survey.
Discussion Cindy presented the results from (47) responses
Discussed ways to get the survey out to additional citizens
taking in to consideration the many ways people can
communicate.
Mayor Gerry Welch suggested including the new Public
Relations city employee.
Angela asked the link to be added to the WGPD Facebook
page.
Conclusions None
Action Items Person Deadline
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Agenda Item 7
Planning of the Fall Event: Possible dates, location, P/R.
Discussion Suggestions were made including but not limited to Ivory
Crockett Park, Porch Fest, painting a mural, Food Trucks,
and Spoken Word Poetry.
Committee was formed to plan consisting of
Kevin
Angela
Gerry
Cindy
Suggested dates were October 16th 2021 or September 25th
2021
Conclusions Subcommittee will start preparation.
Action Items Person Deadline
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Subcommittee will start preparation Gerry, Cindy, Next
Kevin, Angela Meeting
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Agenda Item 8
Remarks of Visitors
Discussion None
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
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Agenda Item 9
Confirmation of Next Scheduled Meeting
Discussion
July 27th 2021, 6:30 pm
Conclusions 8:10 p.m.
Action Items Person Deadline
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Agenda
Agenda
Webster Groves Police Community Engagement Board Meeting
Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 6:30 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call: Rev. Eric Hayes; Katy Miller; Dr. Tina Clark-Scott; Jean Scholtes; Gerry
Welch; Dr. Scott Groesch; Dale Curtis; Angela Brooks; Kevin Sombart; Cindy Neu
3. Review & Approval of Minutes from the previous meeting
4. Review and discussion of the calls based on areas within the community-Chief
Curtis
5. Review and discussion of suggested revisions to the Ordinance by the Alliance for
Interracial Dignity--Katy and Kevin
6. Review and discussion of data from the survey.
7. Planning of the Fall Event: Possible dates, location, P/R.
8. Remarks of Visitors
9. Confirmation of Next Scheduled Meeting
10. Adjourn
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the June 22, 2021, Police Community
Engagement Board Meeting will be available to the public only via teleconference.
Instructions on listening through your phone or computer to the teleconference will be
available prior to the meeting at webstergroves.org/teleconference.
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